NOT THE BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention the stupid report in the UK that even small amounts of beer cause cancer. Which is bollocks.

I'm banned by law in the UK from repeating the conclusive evidence presented a few years ago that two pints of real ale each day significantly reduces the risk of heart attack, so I shant.

Whoops!

I think any sensible person may realise it is not the alcohol but rather the chemical additives in so many "beers" wines and spirits which cause ill health when the said drink is taken in moderation - I'll not argue that fifteen pints a day, every day is likely to be ruinous to one's health.

Without wishing to cast aspertions upon what is undoubtedly a fine ale, might I ask if you have ever been to Britain and sampled our real ales? Cask conditioned, unadulterated, made with local well water and locally grown hops? Plus we have hundreds to choose from, many seasonal.

I just can not imagine how people can drink bottled beers! Even Ringwood 49er, while good, is not a patch on a cask conditioned ale.

Bet that's fun when they run out of communion wine!

I have. Where in the US have you been and consumed local/regional beer?

Same thing here, substituting your hundreds for our thousands, with most of the ales kegged, many bottle- conditioned, and all made from natural ingredients.

Cultures differ. For example, how many Trappist ales are kegged/casked? Incidentally, I had some wonderful cask-conditioned ales while in England. I also had some that were just OK, and some that weren't so good (slightly off, ill-conditioned, bland, etc.). Cask-conditioning isn't a guarantee of great beer, any more than being bottled or kegged is a guarantee of bad beer. I try to keep an open mind.

No way, Jose. Who ever heard of a clergyman ever running out of wine. They excommunicate you for that!

Secret Agent X blessed us with:

Then I as much as I like Bitters, warm beer is not for me.

Secret Agent X speculated:

Fifteen pints every day sounds slightly low to me. To get up to the moderation range (18+), you need tp get a good night's sleep, eat properly, excerise for at least 20 minutes a day, and space the beers out slowing down as it gets leter in the day.

Works for me!

A CAMRA Nazi/policeman - what about the beers of my youth - Double Diamond, Worthington E?

I see. Touched a nerve have I?

Try expanding it, however. You seem to allow poor cellar management to cloud (sic) your judgement of the beer.

Fair comment!

Better be German and Slavic lagers then (they're real)!

I'm not a member of CAMRA, nor a Nazi, nor a policeman.

I just like beer, and know that IPA (India Pale Ale) is a synonym for cheap shit!

Yup. Ignorance is ugly no matter the source.

What's your idea of warm, where beer is concerned?

Who the f*ck ordered the British twit?? ;)

British Bitters are designed to be served at British cellar temperature - which isn't warm.

That's where I was headed. They typically are served at temperatures in the low-to-mid 50s Fahrenheit, so they are chilled, just not so cold as to kill the flavor.

In our youths we knew not the difference.

Even if you are too cheap to pay the dues (if any), you are a CAMRA apologist none the less. ;)

ROTFLMAO

Dick

A good question.