How much !?!?!?!

Sadly all too true I think, although the one exception I know of is Congleton Beer Festival which uses the local leisure center - which, incidentally, has its own bar with a good reputation for excellent and varied beers & ales. Like many other aspects of modern life the simple and time honored tradition of having a few good beers is subject to profiteering, political correctness and a lot of C.Y.A.

I don't go to many beer festivals - mainly because I object to paying for the privilige of paying for beer.

SkyMover

my favourite quote on the 2nd site you mention was this -

Classic! (I found the quote by clicking on the "what" button) cheers, MikeMcG.

I've not done the work for a few years, but at one time the logo design was all mine. I produced something I liked and other people I knew liked and wanted to keep. I carefully trimmed the glass order to match expected sales and we held a stock of plain glasses and remnants of previous years stock was actually sold on a separate stand. When I started glass stocks had been moderately high but they dropped and others in the committee were clamouring for increases in the order.

Produce a product people want and it goes. Produce something naff and you need to do the "it's part of the entrance price and there is no refund" malarky.

How about same deposit on both and you can swap it for a souvenir glass later if you want? You see I happen to know that version works and your alternative with short run commemorative glass production would be very expensive.

In message , Steven Pampling wrote

I was once involved in beer festival organisation and can confirm that if you have a naff design it can make a 40/50% difference to glass sales.

A design liked by a committee and that is only relevant to branch members may not actually be liked by the majority of people who attend a festival. The festival attendees don't actually care that it's the

5th, 10th or 21st anniversary of something - they are only there for the beer and will only take home there glass with a refundable deposit if it has a good logo.