Hydes Seek Food + Cain's Cask Lager Tout

They are possibly pinning the comment on the three month lagering period and the "premium" rather than the cask conditioned lager bit otherwise a certain brewery in Scotland might have a little to say.

Chances of anything other than praise from Liverpool CAMRA are best described as "slight"

Can it be justified? No, not to me, at least :~) In brewery marketing speech "Premium" usually seems to mean stronger, well Harviestoun Schiehallion (I presume the beer Steven below is hinting at?) is 4.8%abv & Cain's is 5.0% -hardly a major difference.

(there has been some debate about the authenticity of some UK cask lagers, e.g. length of lagering, yeasts & temps used, low carbonation levels not being the accepted norm for lager, etc, etc)

I think all that Cain's could rightly say is that they have launched an authentic keg lager, with good ingredients & long cold-maturation & some of which they will put into cask. And that this is quite a rarity in the world of traditional regional ale breweries.

But try using that in your promotional material :~)

(it's perhaps not actually that much of a departure from Cain's as Higson's installed a brand new brewery in the 1980s, able to brew lager & ales, although AFAIK they didn't try to brew to a very authentic standard)

I tried Cain's keg version over the summer - pleasant enough, not sock-blowing, not enough hops aromatic or bittering, and CO2 was q high, but a damn sight better than I remember the last time I had a UK big-brewery lager. I will report back once I've tried the cask version. cheers MikeMcG. (who, while brewing at Zerodegrees, Blackheath a while back used to fill the odd cask with unfiltered, unpasteurised, cold-fermented with bottom yeast, lauter-tun brewed pale & dark lagers, for festivals, etc)

Yes, the cynic/realist in me would guess the same, but then again, I don't see Cain's in the same bad light as I do many of the other regionals - seemingly tired, laurel-resting, monopoly-hogging, etc.

I wonder who/what will win beer of the festival this year :~)

(but I don't think Cain's are being entirely truthful/correct in their publicity either - whether we're talking about this lager campaign, or the daft, spurious "IPA comes home to Liverpool" one!) cheers MikeMcG

... and since when was Maris Otter a lager malt ???

Cheers

Mark Enderby

traditionally it's not a lager variety, but it can be malted very pale, to brew either very pale ales or lagers.

Likewise, the hops Cain's are using, Styrian Goldings, are a Fuggles-derived variety (i.e. a good hop, but more robust in flavour than 'noble' lager hops like saaz, tettnang, hallertauer, etc), mainly grown in Slovenia, though they would be seedless, as are trad lager hops. cheers MikeMcG

Hey ! I worked on that website when I was employed by Sift in Bristol ;-) Glad it's still going

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Bullmastiff also do "Snarlsberg Llager" see:

either 4.5% or 5%, depending on year.