infiltration or theft?

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Having found that the entire thread 1st Morecambe Beer Festvial had
been poached on drinksforum.com and tweeted by the same, I searched
and found 642 matches for my name on that forum - presumably all the
posts I have made on here or where others have quoted me ....

but it looks as though I am a genuine registered forum poster ..

It also quotes my name and sig that I use on here ....


Not happy!

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Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk

www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk for good craic on our pubs!
www.cumbriacamra.org.uk/spile for all Cumbria pubs
Whitehaven Beer Festival 15th/16th March 2013

If you must choose between two evils, pick the one you've never tried before.

Re: infiltration or theft?
On 20/08/2012 18:06, Chris wrote:
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Theft. Happens a lot in uk.d-i-y.

One of the regulars has a sig that expressly forbids use by DIYbanter
(IIRC) which gets posted in full on DIYbanter...

Fred


Re: infiltration or theft?
OK - I have it now! My first post in this thread appeared there
overnight with the same title!

It must be an automated thing and this post, made directly by me to
the UK.food+drink.real-ale, will appear soon in www.drinksforum dot
com

So presumably it won't be read by anybody human.

So here's the issue:  readers of drinksforum, probably none of the
people whose contrubutions appear here contributed them to that
forum. Probably there are no geniune users.

If you try to track down who owns the site, unusually, it is well
hidden but may be in USA.

So beware, readers of drinks forum, if you want live interaction with
real drinkers, real ale lovers who personally know their pibs and
beer festivals, come to UK.food+drink.real-ale - you will find it if
you google the whole name.

And in the meantime .... we could create some fun on here knowing it
will get posted there ... I'm about to experiment...!!!

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Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk

www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk for good craic on our pubs!
www.cumbriacamra.org.uk/spile for all Cumbria pubs
Whitehaven Beer Festival 15th/16th March 2013

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Re: infiltration or theft?
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It's always been done since pretty much the beginning of the World Wide Web.
DejaNews (now google groups) was probably the first to do it.  I'm sure that
there are no legal issues as newsgroups are open access.
I used to run a website that ran in conjunction with
uk.games.computer.counterstrike which had the domain www.ugcc.co.uk.
I openly displayed all posts from that newsgroup so that people who didn't
have usenet access where able to read the group.  I deliberately made it
read only so that you could not post to the 'forum' and stated clearly that
you would have to go to the newsgroup to post.  Although not massively, it
did increase traffic to the newsgroup.
As far as I'm aware it's no different from your news server holding and
displaying the messages, it's just a different medium.

HTH
David.


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It appears that I'm wrong and was infringing on copyright laws.
In my defence though, my site was dedicated to the newsgroup and held the
charter as well as information on posting to newsgroups.  There was no
advertising other than for the newsgroup itself.

David


Re: infiltration or theft?
On 21/08/2012 11:50, Chris wrote:
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Whois information for drinksforum.com:
DRINKSFORUM.COM IP:     69.73.155.120
The IP belongs to ISP     JAGUAR TECHNOLOGIES LLC
ISP domain:     ERICZANDER.COM
Domain MX Information:
Mail eXchanger #1:     DRINKSFORUM.COM [1 domain on this MX]
Domain Nameserver Information:
Nameserver #1:     ns2.mycellsp.com [14 domains on this NS]
Nameserver #2:     ns1.mycellsp.com [14 domains on this NS]
Location information:
Country:     UNITED STATES
Region:     TEXAS

DRINKSFORUM.COM stealing content from Usenet since $DEITY knows when...

--
Fred Carnot
(C) Reproduction expressly forbidden by DRINKSFORUM.COM

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Haha = what will you do about it?

--
Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk

www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!
www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk for good craic on our pubs!
www.cumbriacamra.org.uk/spile for all Cumbria pubs
Whitehaven Beer Festival 15th/16th March 2013

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

Re: infiltration or theft?
On 21/08/2012 18:58, Chris wrote:
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Shrug. Nothing, I doubt they're going to apologise and say "sorry we
won't do it again". Might make it's readers pause to think though...


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Just curious, but there is a setting to cause news servers not to
cache/archive postings. Does it also cause theft bots to not be able to
pick up the postings?


Re: infiltration or theft?
On 22/08/2012 18:08, spampling wrote:
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"x-no-archive yes"?

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I wouldn't have thought so, posts are appearing quite quickly so they're
constantly trawling the NG.

Time to experiment I think...

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That's the beast.


Re: infiltration or theft?
On 23/08/2012 08:32, spampling wrote:
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Well let's see...

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