Music in Sam Smiths pubs?

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I'm told Samual Smiths have forbidden all their tied houses to have
music of any kind, live or recorded, regardless of the wishes of
publican or customers.
This seems bizarre - though they wouldn't be the first pub chain to
drive away customers and alienate licensees with inflexible policies.

Does anyone know the truth of the matter?

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Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:21:50 +0100, MadCow wrote:

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Why would it alientate anyone?  I'm thoroughly pissed off with the way that
you have to endure canned music in pubs (and to be thought a bit of an
oddbod if you object to it).  I do enjoy live music, but the idea of being
able to go to a pub and be able to talk to my friend/s without having to
shout over the din of music is very attractive.
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I have heard this too. I regularly visit several Sam Smiths pubs and enjoy
the good beer, keen prices and noise-free atmosphere.

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Don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, what a superb idea.
The thought of visiting a pub where beer and conviviality are the
order of the day, with annoying noise relegated elsewhere, is
quite appealing.
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It might catch on and then I suppose the next radical idea would be to have
wood panelling and little seating alcoves in smaller rooms one of which
would be for smoking (for the dying moments of smokers in society) and
the rest not.

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Steve Pampling

Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
Steven Pampling wrote:

<< (for the dying moments of smokers in society) >>
Bad choice of phrase there Steve :)

KeithS

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Not really, it was the first thing through my mind and then after careful
consideration of the subconscious (possibly twisted) wit I used it.

(Change of newsfeed and I've just picked up on this one)

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Oh, you've been to their Cittie of York in Holborn, have you Steve?
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Drive away ?

If this is true they've got one new customer - me !




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It's not anything to do with that campaign that was going on a while
back to fight against some change in the licensing laws that would make
it a lot harder to get a music license?

Or had the Performing Rights people suddenly started billing the chain
for the music they had been playing?

Steve

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Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 12:14:23 +0100, Steve Glover

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My understanding is that they don't want to pay for the required new
entertainment license for their pubs. They have a reputation for being
extremely tight-ar*ed and this is just another example of it.

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Mike Roebuck wrote:

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Well, they *do* come from Yorkshire  :))
KeithS

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Never mind the lack of music, I'm more concerned about the lack of
*beer*.  SS have this bizarre policy of only stocking nitro beer
outside Yorkshire (and in quite a few pubs *inside* Yorkshire.). Given
that traditional beer is their unique selling point you'd tink they'd
make the most of it.

Best regards, Paul
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Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:05:35 GMT, paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul
Sherwin) wrote:

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They do real ale at most of their central London pubs which I've been
to.

Lack of intrusive noise is a Good Thing. I once had the misfortune to
go to some hellhole a few doors down from The Chandos, a Sam Smith's
place in Trafalgar Square. It was so loud we had to write down our
order for the barmaid to read, and we soon left for the more civilised
Chandos.  
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Arthur Figgis                Surrey, UK

Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:10:31 +0100, Arthur Figgis

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Most of the SS pubs in London *don't* serve real ale, which is
incomprehensible given that some ot them do, so they obviously deliver
cask beer to London.

The SS pub in Oxford (Three Goat's Heads) used to serve cask but
hasn't for several years, again for no obvious reason.

Best regards, Paul
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Re: Music in Sam Smiths pubs?
On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:48:01 GMT, paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul
Sherwin) wrote:

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I don't know whether most do, as I don't know how many there are. I've
seen real ale in the Chandos, Cheshire Cheese, Princess Louise and
Citte of York in the past year or so, but not in the Glasshouse
Stores.  Within the past five years(!) I /think/ I've had real ale at
Swiss Cottage, but not at their Anerley pub (which isn't central
London anyway).


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Arthur Figgis                Surrey, UK

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The "Red set" ones do - Chandos on Trafalgar Square, Lyceum on the Strand,
Cheshire Cheese on Fleet St - but it's such a nasty beer (and could only be
relied upon to be in good nick at the last of these - 5 year old
information), I have trouble summoning enthusiasm to go there.  Even at
<2quid a pint.

Aside - it being a northern beer, there's a school that suggests it might
justify a sparkler.  In my experience, I've never drunk a pint that suffers
so much for this brutality.  Problem is, the barstaff tend to get pissy
after you and the rest of your group keep ordering rounds minus sparkler...



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Simon Cooper wrote:
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IIRC the Lyceum has no hand drawn beer.  So I wouldn't class it as 'real
ale'.

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Paul

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No, the Murenger in Newport (Sth Wales) has SSOB on tap; but the King
William in Bristol doesn't. Dunno why, I'd have there'd be more demand for
RA in Bristol.



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I seem to recall that they did serve real ale when the pub first reopened as
the King William, but that it then disappeared, presumably due to some
brilliant Sam Smiths management decision.

Cheers

Blackfire band website : www.blackfire.co.uk

Bristol & District Campaign for Real Ale : www.camrabristol.org.uk



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