Pub Grub

# It doesn't cost much more to eat in a proper restaurant these days and # probably represents better value for money.

# Pubs are pretending to be restaurants these days, which they are not.

I think there broad range of quality in both pubs and restaurants. If you can find a pub that sells decent beer and decent food, you are onto a winner and you don't have to pay crazy prices for drink on the whole.

I really do get fed up with restaurants charging 15 quid for a bottle of wine that cost them a fiver from Tesco!

Both however have an alarming habit of presenting you withfood that looks good but tastes rubbish.

Contrast with Portugal, where you have to try pretty hard to get a bad meal, unless you go into the most touristy of bars/restaurants,

But take care with the timing.

The West Riding serves lunches, Mondays to Fridays only; pie and peas on Tuesday evenings, curries on Wednesday evenings, steaks (with table service) on Thursday evenings (new), "ale day" breakfasts on Saturdays, and sausage butties on Saturdays and Sundays until, IIRC, 9 p.m.

All the food is good, but it's the weekday lunches which are the highlight.

Saxman (Saxman ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Hmmm. I would imagine that there's a bit of a difference in quality there... £4 for a large bowl of fresh soup, made by the chef's own fair hands with top quality ingredients, served with a big hunk of fresh-from- the-oven crusty bread is cheap. Hell, my mouth's watering at the thought of it. That 25p tin of Aldi processed water seems to counter that quite effectively.

I've had pub food ranging from the absolutely exquisite to a vaguely warm microwaved frozen yorkshire pudding with a tin of "Big Soup" ( No, that was SWMBO's. Mine had a tin of beans'n'sausages) tipped into it. You just _can't_ say "pub food" as a generic, just as "restaurant" covers a wide range of quality and prices.

Is the "gastropub" taking over at the expense of the cling-filmed cheese and pickle roll? Yes, definitely (but not exclusively). Is that a good thing? Well, it must be economically good for the landlords. Else they wouldn't be doing it, would they...?

Can't be THAT posh. I've seen starters _alone_ for twenty quid before...

Quite a few places do. In fact, I reckon I've come across more here than abroad which do. Especially thinking of France.

Umm, isn't that normal in this country too?

I don't think that pub has a chef.

Looks like it to me.

I think it's the exception where I live.

How much do they charge where it's 'normal' where are from?

Now that is what pub food should be about IMO. A local pub around here does a mussel and wine night. Pubs can play a good role in this aspect.

Saxman (Saxman ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

I think you may be missing my point.

"Very posh" doesn't necessarily mean "clean napkins" to most people...

Order food "at the bar or use the notepad to write your own and give it to one of the waiting staff"? FFS! What are they "trained" in?

Is that such a hardship?

They do serve it to you, with tablecloths, decent tableware, etc.....

Milsoms restaurants have won quite a few awards.

You can view the menus online.

I have no connection with the company.

I should go to the pub instead with damp dogs, juke boxes, fruit machines and save a fiver.

Take away the juke boxes, fruit machine, and yes, give me the Three Stags' Heads at Wardlow Mires anyday!