The Hobgoblin's last Hallowe'en

Several months ago, the Hobgoblin of Broad Street, Reading, was told it would have to change its name. This was because Ian Rogers who owns the trademark didn't want the pub to use it any more. A suggestion box on the bar attracted hundreds of suggestions, ranging from the bizarre to the libellous. The pubco said *it* would be choosing the new name. The staff opened the box and had a good laugh.

For ages nothing happened but the new name has now been announced: the pub will call itself "The Ale House". It doesn't sell ale, though it doesn't sell Hobgoblin beer either. Of course the customers can and will call it whatever they like.

Reply to
Darkside
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What does he have to do with the beer? Or why does he own the trademark?

Can't they still call it Hobgoblin - a generic term, like fairy or pixie - but have a different picture?

Reply to
Chris

In article , Darkside writes

Then you should report the owners/management to the local Trading Standards Officer.

Reply to
Roy Bailey

I am no expert on trademark law, but it looks as though Marstons has the law on its side.

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which includes pubs etc.

Shame. I would have thought that a pub *should* be able to call itself what it wants. I suggest a boycott of all Marstons pubs, with a clear explanation of why.

Reply to
Davey

There are huge numbers of trademarks held by Marston's, icluding an Ale House Sluroing Toad.

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Reply to
Davey

I imagine it sells keg ale at least...

Reply to
PeterE

In article , PeterE writes

The only keg is Lovibonds' Henley-on-Thames light and dark lagers. There's beer, and cider/perry and mead and the like but actual ale with no boil hops is very rare nowadays. Unless you're a Yank - they call beer "ale" and ditchwater "beer".

What I'd love to do is buy the freehold and try to force the leaseholder (pubco) to do the maintenance that's almost certainly their responsibility. Ah well, we can dream.

Reply to
Darkside

So sorry to disillusion you, but we are a pair of "Yanks" who really prefer Old Peculiar, Ram Tam, and Riggwelter. No, we can't buy them here at home, but we get them every Spring in Yorkshire.

Meanwhile, we brew them ourselves at home.

Reply to
cciaffone

There are exceptions that prove the rule, and the more recent of my years in the US showed that there are many good beers produced there now. I would love another taste of some Left Hand Sawtooth, for instance. But the ghastly chemical ones still predominate. So how do you brew Old Peculiar, etc at home? You have the correct ingredients? And licenses?

Reply to
Davey

Lots of Black Patent and Crystal Malt. It's not REAL Old Peculiar, but it does come close.

What kind of licenses?

btw - have not been able to purchase the real OP here in North Carolina for quite a while. Wonder where it's gone??

Reply to
cciaffone

If you were brewing the REAL Old Peculiar, then you should have at least the original Brewer's permission. Maybe not a license as such, and if you are not calling it Old Peculiar or selling, then I see no harm done, but it would be decent to ask them. I saw it on a shelf here in East Anglia a few days ago. From my experiences of buying UK beer in the US, it depends entirely on the whims of the importers and the availability at the time. If you're ever near north Chicago, or even if you're not, visit Sam's Wines, in person or online. They might ship to you as well, although that depends on your State. Michigan regarded any booze not sold there by a designated wholeseller as contraband. If you're near south Chicago and the Indiana border, look up The Three Floyds, ex-Brits who brew lethally strong English beer. Designate a driver, or take a cab. I can't remember the names of the importers now, but try DuckDuckGo'ing them, they are there. Now I'm back home, I just go down the pub for real beer.

Reply to
Davey

They might also insist that you spell the name correctly. ;-)

Reply to
Graham P Davis

Noted.

Reply to
Davey

I was going to post the same .. adding that I am a pedant!

:o)))

Reply to
Chris

So am I. I just don't drink enough of the brew in question, maybe I need to rectify that. Hic.

Reply to
Davey

However, none of this will keep me from brewing what I consider to be pretty close to OP here at home where I can no longer buy it.

License or no, I keep on brewing!!!

HA HA Freedom is mine!!!

Reply to
cciaffone

And good for you. The last time I brewed beer in the US, it was in a Brewsack, in a hotel room in California. And very good it was, too. It hung next to my clothes, and created some amusement when I opened the cupboard door to pour a pint. I have seen some very uncomplimentary reviews of Beersacks, but this one was fine.

Reply to
Davey

Altho I just gotta say, my absolute fave ale is Riggwelter when had at the brewery in Masham with a meal of roast lamb. Now that IS to die for!!

On the way home, perhaps a bit of Brymor ice cream to top it all off.

And maybe just a glass or two at The Crown in Hawes??

Reply to
cciaffone

You have obviously missed Great Gable's Yewbarrow, then!

Reply to
Chris

In article , cciaffone writes

Can't argue with that, we had some Yorkshire Square when on the brewery tour, it was on sale at our local Morrisons for quite a while after that, unfortunately in bottles, but hasn't been seen for ages, sad.

Mike

Reply to
Michael Swift

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