FA: Unopened Bottle - Stone Sawyers Triple

I hope all of the money is going to the correct charity ... if not this guy should burn in hell.

-- Jason Alstrom Co-Founder / BeerAdvocate

3rd Annual Extreme Beer Fest

J. Alstrom wrote: : I hope all of the money is going to the correct charity ... if not this guy : should burn in hell. :

Gee, thanks for that Jason, it's so greatly appreciated -- I'm really glad you feel that way.

I've worked many Stone fundraisers since the first one in 2001 and I'm a pretty generous guy. I have met, and like, your brother and his lovely wife and am friends with a lot of the folks on BA.

I've never met you, but when and if I do I have a feeling I'm not going to like you.

Tell ya what, Jason -- I'll make it a charity auction -- when the auction is over you put up any amount of money up to the full selling price of the bottle -- as soon as Chris or Greg confirms that you've made the contribution, I'll match it!

"J. Alstrom" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

ALD. How much have you given? I'd guess your contribution is right up there with mine at $0. Which makes me wonder why you could possibly care.

An eternity of agony for re-selling a fund-raiser item...Yeah, that's appropriate. But it is OK to drink it? I mean, you know, you're going to piss it out. Sounds the height of disrespect to me.

Scott Kaczorowski Long Beach, CA

snipped-for-privacy@fuvm.org (Bill Benzel) wrote in news:43a17b6d$0$8822$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uslec.net:

"Up to" includes the number 0. Please amend.

I feel a Tripel coming on...

Scott Kaczorowski Long Beach, CA

Scott Kaczorowski wrote: : snipped-for-privacy@fuvm.org (Bill Benzel) wrote in : news:43a17b6d$0$8822$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uslec.net: : :> J. Alstrom wrote: :>: I hope all of the money is going to the correct charity :>: ... if not this guy should burn in hell. :>: :> Tell ya what, Jason -- I'll make it a charity auction -- :> when the auction is over you put up any amount of money up :> to the full selling price of the bottle : : "Up to" includes the number 0. Please amend. :

I don't think I'll amend it -- it's put up or shut up time for him. Bottom line is that there are probably thousands of collectible items sold on ebay that were originally manufactured and sold to raise money for charity, research, etc. It's a truly absurd notion to expect that the resale of these items, when they've become collectible, requires the seller to donate "all of the money ... to the correct charity." I think he's pissed at me for putting the bottle up on ebay but he's either hiding the real reason or he doesn't really know why he got pissed and is reacting with the first thing that popped into his head. Or maybe he's just trolling.

But, the dude threw down a gauntlet and I'm a very generous guy who has given freely to Stone's causes before so I'm picking it up -- I'll match him dollar for dollar up to the full selling price of the bottle. Let's see if he's willing to put his money where his mouth is.

Whoring your wares in newsgroups is trolling IMO ... I was just trying to call this out and it seemed to work. I raised a substantial amount from Sawyer's Tripel at one of our fests and then BA matched it again. Not pissed ... just happy I have a delete button on BA.

Cheers and good luck with the charity auction!!

-- Jason Alstrom Co-Founder / BeerAdvocate

3rd Annual Extreme Beer Fest

Well, bully for you.

However, consider that your arrogant and pompous attitude (IMO, Mr. Benzel has no obligation to contribute anything to the charity as the second seller) is probably doing more to turn people OFF of your website than drawing people TO it. There are ways you could have raised the question of charity giving in the case of the resale of charity-fundraising collectibles--which is actually a reasonably fair topic for debate--without effectively "telling" someone else what to do with his money.

After that last round of uncalled-for arrogance, I'm removing the bookmark for BeerAdvocate from my computer. Folks, consider Pubcrawler.com and RateBeer.com as alternatives. And I would be remiss if I didn't call attention to the Brewing News line of "brewspapers" and the related website.

You attract more bees with sugar water than with vinegar, mate.

Alexander D. Mitchell IV Baltimore columnist Mid-Atlantic Brewing News

Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote: : : After that last round of uncalled-for arrogance, I'm removing the bookmark : for BeerAdvocate from my computer. Folks, consider Pubcrawler.com and : RateBeer.com as alternatives. And I would be remiss if I didn't call : attention to the Brewing News line of "brewspapers" and the related website. :

Thanks for the backup, Mr. Mitchell. Unfortunately there are a number of members of BA who are personal friends of mine -- actually I finally joined BA a few weeks ago simply because of the growth of those friendships and acquaintances and finding out that these people check their BA mailboxes about 100 times as frequently as their regular email, so, while it's not a necessity for me, being part of that RL community sort of dictates that I maintain a role in that virtual community as well.

The site is funded by donations.

Now that REALLY gives me a lot to think about.

BTW, I found the RateBeer crew at the recent Pizza Port Real Ale festival to also be a great bunch of folks -- spent a little time at their table exchanging tastes from rare bottles and enjoyed every minute of it.

J. Alstrom wrote: : : Cheers and good luck with the charity auction!!

I just donated more than the final price of the Sawyer's bottle. I could have donated it to BA but I thought that this was a bit more worthy:

Care to match me?

Bill AT DOT reply to bbenzel adelphia net

I wouldn't hold your breath.

Sorry, can't hear you over all those crickets chirping..................................

"Alexander D. Mitchell IV" eats posts like this for lunch news:nvRuf.1$ snipped-for-privacy@news.abs.net:

I'm surprised. You'd think he'd pony up the money right away, which would be immediately followed by yet another round of begging for money on BA.

*Gee. It's been so long now. You don't suppose something has HAPPENED to him, do you? Anyone wanna swing by his beer cellar?