Please Explain This Brewing Practice

Brewed and bottled at ABC Beverages, Nowhere, Virginia under supervision of XYZ Brewing co., Hometown, Maryland.

Why would a new brewery contract out to another brewery? Is this typical?

Jack

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brojack
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Yup. The contracted brewery might have more capacity than the new brewery.

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Me

Because breweries are expensive and the name of the game in beer has been marketing for many years now. Sam Adams got their start the same way.

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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.

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news.verizon.net

Many craft breweries only keg beer, sincfe bottling lines are very expensive. If those without bottling lines want to offer bottled beer, they will contract to have their beer brewed and bottled at a brewery with bottling facilities. Happens all the time. It's the taste that's important, in my opinion....

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AG

It seems disingenuous to imply in their advertising that the suds are being brewed in the hometown.

Jack

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BroJack

Could it be that they are using the SAME brewmeister to supervise the operations at the new brewery as the one that is employed by the other one?

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nospam

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It's done all the time.

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Augustiner Lager: This smooth amber lager has been available in draft since

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Augustiner Dark (available in draft only)

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Brigade, Brigade Ice: (PA only, ND, and northern Minnesota)

Mustang Malt Liquor: (Available in 40 ounce bottles) Ohio, WV, PA, NY

PBC contract beers: All are offered via a written distribution agreement.

Nightflight: (Capital Beverage/Bronx, NY All distribution rights)

Primetime: (Malt and Lager Tennesse and NY.)

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Tech Beer: Began brewing before the start of the prohibition in 1933 and was discontinued in 1978. Tech Beer is now Old German.

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Mark V: 1972 - 1978 Considered the "Grand Daddy" of all light brews

Robin Hood Cream Ale: 1972 - 1978

Augustiner: Purchased from Augie/Wagner in 1972.

Gamminus: 1972 - 1978

Seven Springs: Specialty 3 piece can set that PBC did for the Seven Springs Ski Resort.

IC Golden Lager: Early 1980's. One of PBC greatest demand brews

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IC Cooler: 1988 - 1996. Was brewed and packaged again in the summer of 1999 and may be out again in summer 2000.

Samuel Adams: 1986 - 1999

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Evil Eye Brands: 1995 - 1999

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TOM KAN PA

: Brewed and bottled at ABC Beverages, Nowhere, Virginia under : supervision of XYZ Brewing co., Hometown, Maryland.

: Why would a new brewery contract out to another brewery? Is this : typical?

Others have mentioned the bottling line issue that can result in this. Another reason is shipping costs. For example, here in Canada, Foster's lager from Australia is really not from Australia. The fine print on the can says "brewed under license in Canada by Molson".

-- Greg Beaulieu snipped-for-privacy@chebucto.ns.ca Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Greg Beaulieu

Fosters (Australia) and Harp (Ireland) are both brewed in Canada and then imported into the US. Cuts down on shipping costs and still allows them to claim "imported", I suppose...

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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.

snipped-for-privacy@sbcglobal.net (Curtis CCR) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

Budweiser is a highly regarded beer in the U.S., and I suspect Foster's is the same in Australia for the same reason. Most people like that crap. Doesn't mean that Foster's is a snot better than the crap brewed by Molson.

People also say the Guinness brewed in Ireland tastes better than the Guinness you can get in the U.S., but it's the exact same beer. I suspect the Aussies are just rooting for the proverbial home team.

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Dan Iwerks

'tis true. On a not so recent trip down under, Fosters was regarded as something similar to Budweiser in the US. Generic, mass market carbonated beer. XXXX (four X) was a bit better.

Cracks me up to see British television shows where the characters are drinking Budweiser in the local pub...

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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.

A big difference is finding a Bud in a local bar here is quite common. In Oz one would have to put some effort into locating a Fosters. The most popular beer is Victoria Bitter (VB) but it is certanly far from the best.

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Baltimore Jack

Right. That's the key. Many "Japanese" beers are brewed in Los Angeles at the Budweiser plant in the valley, and can't say "imported" on the label. Shipping beer, however, turns out to be a lot more expensive than just sending some company reps and a brewmaster overseas to "oversee" the operation. All I know, is that the actual Japanese beers (brewed in Japan) are not bad at all, while the ones brewed in LA have a cardboard aftertaste...not pleasant.

J
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John Hernlund

If the beer is brewed with tap water, then couldn't the same brand beer taste different in the different cities/countries that it's brewed in????

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TOM KAN PA

All I know, is that the actual Japanese beers (brewed in Japan) are not bad at all, while the ones brewed in LA have a cardboard aftertaste...not pleasant.(snip)

You know, that brings up an issue...why are American beers so awful? When I was in Germany, the beer there was wonderful, had an aftertaste like a bowl of Cheerios. In America, all the beer I've tried, even the "imported" beers, including Beck's, have that rotten cardboard aftertaste. There were only two exceptions: Coors when I was on the brewery tour in Golden, CO,(not everywhere else I have ever been, bottled or tap, It's as bad as all the others), and Tuborg beer on tap, at the San Diego sports arena about 25 years ago. Is it that we are willing to settle for a lot of crap? Believe me, I am a patriot, I don't want to start a flame war, I think we can make good beer, this is all in the interest of constructive criticism. I've even considered getting a home brewing kit and learning how to make it myself. Opinions?-Jitney

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jitney

Some brewers, as well as bottled water companies, filter and/or distill the water before use and perhaps add certain minerals to the water to bring the water up to "standard". The water is then tested to endure it is within the parameters set by the parent company.

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James J. Walton

Twoey's New was highly recommended. My cousin's wife misses it terribly and said she couldn't find it anywhere in the US. I got a bottle of it in one of those "Beer o' the World" gift packs that someone gave me last Christmas. We shared it... It wasn't bad. Better than Foster's. But not the best beer of all time....

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Curtis CCR

American mass-market beer is Gawdawful because the majority have been conditioned to accept it that way. And imported beer is frequently stale by the time it's been handled and stored repeatedly, often by businesses which have no clue how to do so.

There are excellent beers brewed in the US, too many even to begin listing, especially in California. Home brewing is a pleasurable alternative, especially if ales and stouts are to your taste.

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Christopher Green

As with most foods, beer is an acquired taste.

Germany has very strict laws regarding the ingredients used to brew beer. Don't recall exactly what they are limited to using - something like hops, yeast and something else. In the US, brewers can use anything they like. IIRC, major ingredient in Budweiser is rice.

Many truely imported beers use different formulas for their export product and their domestic product, even though they have the same name.

Boy does that bring back fond memories from years back. I agree, beer from the tap at a brewery is nectar.

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Clark W. Griswold, Jr.

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