Rogue Chipotle Ale

One has to travel far for everything here.

Of course, you're comparing one of the most beer-saturated regions of the country to one that's, well, not.

BBC brews very nicely balanced beers. It's not the place to go for an overload of hops by any stretch. Locally, to be honest, I'm not sure which brewpubs I would put in that camp, actually.

Eh. BJ's has never impressed me. They're not bad, and they do have a couple rather nice beers. The food's OK, as long as one steers well clear of the pizza (and that's without getting into my customary rant about how there's nothing remotely Chicago-style about the stuff).

-Steve

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Steve Jackson
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As a matter of fact, yes. I can make them all.... only BETTER. I eat them along with my BETTER THAN FRICKIN' WESTMALLE HOMEBREW!!1!!11!

Happy holidays to the lot o' you.

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Joel

From my understanding from people who grew up around Philly, it's not provolone. It's white American.

I've had theirs. Wasn't terribly impressed. Best I've had in LA (and the one praised by my Philly friends) is South Street in Burbank (great ices, too). (South Street, incidentally, is down the street about two miles from a different place in Burbank whose name escapes me that does a pretty good - and accurate - Chicago-sytle Italian beef, as well as proper Chicago hot dogs.)

-Steve

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Steve Jackson

"Steve Jackson" wrote in news:%Otqf.44539$CL.30605@trnddc04:

And I should have mentioned the crust. By "big" I meant tall, not thick.

I'll be darned. I subscribe to the "pizza is like sex" theory: Even bad pizza is not really all that bad.

(Try Spinelli's at Los Coyotes and Spring.)

There's no difference in taste. Find it yourself.

Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure I've seen the Land'o'Lakes version at the local Pavilions. Willing to be wrong about that, but then, I fail to see how it matters.

Geez...Whiz, American cheese...

Deal. But only if they are originally from inside the 60 mile limit.

It's just not a great burger. It just isn't. And I STILL don't understand how the burger can be the subject of legend, but the flacid and undercooked fries are on the verge of being pointless.

Your wonrngering, giggy.

Scott Kaczorowski Long Beach, CA

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Scott Kaczorowski

Oh. Well. YOU. That's a different kettle o' squid, in't it?

Happy homebrewin'.

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Lew Bryson

In rec.food.drink.beer Scott Kaczorowski wrote: :> :> Only when you stop snivelling/whinging/whining about In 'N :> Out Burger. : : It's just not a great burger. It just isn't. And I STILL : don't understand how the burger can be the subject of legend, : but the flacid and undercooked fries are on the verge of : being pointless. :

Next time you get dragged to an In 'N Out against your will ask them to make your burger "animal style." It's an improvement.

The fries are definitely not worth touching. The buns are not great either.

But if I'm being dragged to a fast food parlor I's still prefer to be dragged to an In 'N Out than a Jack, McD, BK or Wendy's. I'll kick and scream bloody murder before you get me across the threshold of those places.

I may have to go to a Jack this year, order three combos and throw them in the trash. I want the balls.

Reply to
Bill Benzel

Yep, the Atlantic ocean rose 3" 'cause of the global warming.

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Zeppo

Y'know, you might wanna think about what that looks like to the rest of us.

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Lew Bryson

Lew, is there no Jack In The Box advertising in the East???

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Three of 'em -- high kitsch -- put 'em on yer antenna or use 'em to decorate yer Christmas tree.

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Bill Benzel

If there weren't no movies and TV-vision, or e.coli infections, we wouldn't never have heard of Jack in the Box. But don't yew feel bad fer us'ns. Yew got Yuengling out by yew? No, but yew done heard of it, ain't yew? Durn right. That's cuz Yuengling is real quality. Now that I eddicated yew-all, I'm gonna go back to rockin' my chair and smokin' my corncob, by crackee.

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Lew Bryson

:> Lew, is there no Jack In The Box advertising in the East??? : : If there weren't no movies and TV-vision, or e.coli infections, we wouldn't : never have heard of Jack in the Box. But don't yew feel bad fer us'ns. Yew : got Yuengling out by yew? No, but yew done heard of it, ain't yew? Durn : right. That's cuz Yuengling is real quality. Now that I eddicated yew-all, : I'm gonna go back to rockin' my chair and smokin' my corncob, by crackee. :

Ah dew recall when Ah thunk Yuengling Porter was one of the best 'Merikkin beers I ever had. That wuz right about the time Ah discovered a place called Khyber Pass down on Two Street -- the bartender at lunchtime was a dude name o' Chris and he dun turned me on to that there Eye Pee Ay from Yards -- he 'splayned it wuz dry-hopped in the keg and told me Ah had to come back every day cuz it wuz a'changin' right there in the keg and would smell and taste even better tomorrow.

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Bill Benzel

In rec.food.drink.beer Bill Benzel wrote: : : I may have to go to a Jack this year, order three combos and throw them : in the trash. I want the balls. :

It occurred to me that I had an alternative to trashing the food so I popped into the local Jack, asked the lady bhind the register if I could fund some meals for people who needed them, told her all I wanted was to keep the balls.

She did it for me.

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Bill Benzel

Dayum! They iz dry hoppin' Yuengling Porter?

Oh. Ah see Ah wuz mistooken. That there Yards...that is sum good beer 2.

Ah dun fergot yew wuz from heer, Bill. Y'all come back, hear?

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Lew Bryson

snipped-for-privacy@fuvm.org (Bill Benzel) wrote in news:43ac14da$0$8468$ snipped-for-privacy@news.uslec.net:

The Kid loves the place.

The standard burger doesn't suck, but it just isn't great. And it's definitely not worth the wait. It simply doesn't deserve its reputation, IMO. I suppose maybe like Pat's and/or Geno's.

(I took all of the kids in the entire neighborhood to InO recently. The oldest (~15) asked if he could order a 10x10. I said yes. He didn't eat it all himself, but there were no scraps left 30 minutes later.)

It's just not a great burger. It just isn't. Restaurant- pack patties and produce, crappy buns (as you say), all drowned in Secret Sauce.

The one thing I will give them credit for is that the burgers are smallish and not cater-to-the-fat-f*ck huge.

I will also give them another thing: They apparently pay their workers relatively well and also give benefits right off the bat. And I've never been treated even slighly poorly at an InO.

I'll take a Tommy's over any of 'em.

So you're going to advertize for a company you don't like?

Uh...So you're gonna keep and wear your Budweiser t-shirt?

That's...not right.

Scott Kaczorowski Long Beach, CA

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Scott Kaczorowski

I'm gonna break with tradition and just answer this one thing. Michigans are, essentially, chili dogs (or more accurately, Texas hots) but with subtle differences that are important in Plattsburgh, NY. The rolls, made by a local bakery, are heavier, split-top rolls; the sauce, by local tradition, is drier and chunkier than "Greek sauce" is in other places. Now...if you get the diff between chili dogs and Texas hots, if you know what Greek sauce is, you might get why Michigans are different unto themselves. I've learned a lot about hot dogs and Greek sauce in the past five years, and it's really a fascinating subject for the folk-food...guy.

Reply to
Lew Bryson

Okay...is this InO thing like White Castle?

Reply to
Lew Bryson

In rec.food.drink.beer Scott Kaczorowski wrote: : :> I may have to go to a Jack this year, order three combos :> and throw them in the trash. I want the balls. : : So you're going to advertize for a company you don't like? :

No, they're used as decorations on a small, kitschy Christmas tree that we have (in addition to the classic 9 footer).

Reply to
Bill Benzel

It's just a good thing that they stopped using gaslamp streetlighting in Philly in the late 1800's.

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Douglas W. Hoyt

"We" in the East USED to have Jack-in-the-Boxes- there was one in Menlo Park, NJ, across from the mall. First taco I ever saw or ate (circa

1969-70). It was very small, later turned into a Mini-Mac [I think they called it that, or something similar], a MacDonald's with limited menu that didn't feature a "eat-in" section- drive-thru or walk-up-and-go only.

The other Jack I remember was on in Elizabeth, NJ -only remember it because it was used as a landmark and the parking lot as a meeting place on a first date with local girl- don't recall ever going inside. It was a rough place- the local tough guys liked to talk mean to the "Clown" and throw things at him. Now that I think about it, they may have been the first fast food restaurant I remember with drive-up windows...

As far as eating local specialties outside of the correct geographical area, I STILL shudder at a "real East Coast style Submarine Sandwich" (that's what it said on the sign in the window) I had once *somewhere* in LA. I was living there in 1976 (the Bi-Centennial year- WORST fireworks display I ever saw- in MacArthur Park. Instead of cries of "OOOHHHH" or "WWWOOOWWWW", there were groans of disappointment- "ahhhh".). Anyway, this "sub"- don't remember much about it- there was probably some sort of meat and cheese- but WHAT does stay in my memory was the hot dog style roll it was on and the RELISH that was used as garnish. I can only figure that they once saw a bad Polaroid of a real sub, saw the lettuce-onion-oil & vinegar and thought, "Oh, that must be relish"!.

I guess nowadays for an East Coaster that wouldn't be too surprising. People apparently buy and eat subs at these Subway & Blimpie & Quizno's places and I go to a lot of Italian places and even they ask "What do you want on it?"

"WHAT?! It's a sub! It COMES with lettuce-onion-oil & vinegar! If I ask for a plain pizza, do you ask if I want sauce and cheese on it?"

But I learned to answer the question correctly, because I've been winding up mayo on subs.

(Note- yeah, I'm in central New Jersey, but we've always called 'em "subs" around here. I know there's supposed to be a "hoagie" section of NJ, but I think it's much further south, closer to Philly that most sources site.)

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jesskidden

In rec.food.drink.beer snipped-for-privacy@lycosmonaut.com wrote: : : "We" in the East USED to have Jack-in-the-Boxes- there was one in Menlo : Park, NJ, across from the mall. First taco I ever saw or ate (circa : 1969-70). It was very small, later turned into a Mini-Mac [I think they : called it that, or something similar], a MacDonald's with limited menu : that didn't feature a "eat-in" section- drive-thru or walk-up-and-go only. :

Same here -- the first taco I ever had came froma JiB in Narberth, PA. The site, when I left the area 10 years ago, had become a Royal Bank.

: (Note- yeah, I'm in central New Jersey, but we've always called 'em : "subs" around here. I know there's supposed to be a "hoagie" section of : NJ, but I think it's much further south, closer to Philly that most : sources site.) :

There are some days I'd give my kingdom for a tuna sub from the Tastee Sub Shop in Edison. That's one of the places I truly miss.

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Bill Benzel

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