World Brew Review #6

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I would say your short apparently "one-man" reviews contain only about

1/100th of the amount of "consumer information" of sites like ratebeer.com
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Expletive Deleted

I am just one man. I never made any other implication that I wasn't. I don't see what good you are doing out there for beer awareness.

Reply to
Jason Arakelian

ratebeer.com

Ah, so you DON'T read the newsgroup regularly. You just send your stuff here. See, we like people who are INVOLVED in the newsgroup. Maybe if you read it more often, you'd know that ED has been making some good contributions.

Reply to
Lew Bryson

I do read the newsgroup regularly. I just don't feel the need to post regularly. And like I said before.........

Reply to
Jason Arakelian

You're right about one thing. I did ask for an opinion and I got it. I guess I was hoping for constructive criticism instead of someone stating the obvious that I write the reviews by myself and I am clearly not like Ratebeer.com. I don't want to be like that website. Not because I think there is anything wrong with it, but because they already do it. I can't use Ed's criticism to help my writing.

I never said that I participated regularly in your forums, only that I do read them on a regular basis. There is no need for me to lie on this. I guess that makes me a bad beer enthusiast because I never share my thoughts. I get nothing from the World Brew Review, nor is it my wish to gain from it. I make a good enough living from my job that I do not need to plug anything through all of my posts. Not that it matters, but one of my comments was misconstrued by Mr. Bryson. I was only reiterating that I I haven't seen what good Ed had done for beer awareness. I know all about Lew with his books and articles in various papers such as Ale Street News. He is very knowledgeable. Egotistictal, but he does know what he is talking about most of the time. I am sorry that I am not like the great Lew Bryson with his millions of adoring, international fans and many pulitzers.

Reply to
Jason Arakelian

It's not Ed, BTW. It's ED. If you read this as often as you say you do, you'd know that, and you'd know that he's posted more worthwhile stuff on this NG in the past month than you have in the past year. Sorry, but it's true. You want constructive criticism? Forget the tasting notes; put out some news. Guys on this NG generally know what beers taste like, and if we don't, we go buy one and decide for ourselves. To be honest, Jason, what you're lacking most is credibility. Not your fault, but you're not going about it the right way. You're not even going about it the right place; there's not a lot of traffic here at all anymore. Just a bunch of curmudgeons and some excellent new folks.

Oh, blow it out your ass. You run your one-man, 20-hit website and flaunt your reviews here and get pissy-assed mad when someone criticizes you, and I'M egotistical? I'm just trying to make a living. Like the brewers who wear their brand on their clothing, I wear my brand, and it's me. I'm all I've got to sell.

"World Brew Review," forsooth.

Reply to
Lew Bryson

It's not egotistical if it's not exaggerated.

I'm not. Sorry, that is. One Lew is enough to go around.

IMO, onthis topic in general, we already have enough people whose only contribution to the forum is to flog their lame web sites.

Reply to
Joel Plutchak

Leave it Lew to finally hit the nail squarely. Credibility.

Despite Joel's valid critique of it, ratebeer and similar sites have credibility because they're a fairly representative sampling with alot of data (given, representative only of the world of "beer geeks"). Guys like Lew and other professional writers who comment on what beer tastes like (MJ, etc) have credibility because of their experience and they've succeeded in the world of professional beer writing for a reason. Posting brief comments of a dozen or so beers on a usenet group dedicated to beer, read only by beer geeks, doesn't mean anything and doesn't spread the gospel of good beer.

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Expletive Deleted

Just to clarify, My peeve isn't so much with the sites themselves, or even the usefulness of most of the content. It's really specifically with the kind of "these are the top 10 beers in the world" conclusions that people draw from them.

Reply to
Joel Plutchak

Umm, kind of a mixed metaphor there, wouldn't ya say? ;-)

Brian

Reply to
Brian Lundeen

Not if he's toiling away toward brewing something like Cantillon's Vignerone Lambic. ;-)

Reply to
Joel Plutchak

Vineyard, hop field... big leafy climbing vines. What's not to like?

Besides, Lew "gets" vino now.

Reply to
dgs

Clearly. Given anything so subjective as taste, no such conclusion could be drawn from any source. But used as a predictor of "will I like Beer X", then the more credible the source, the better predictor it is.

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Expletive Deleted

Exactly, because we already know the top 10 beers in the world:

  1. Corona w/ Lime
  2. Heinekins
  3. Corona Light w/ Lime
  4. Yeunglings
  5. Rolling Rock
  6. PBR
  7. Anchor Steam Porter
  8. Flat Tire
  9. Bud Rice
  10. Guinnessee

Bruce Reistle

Reply to
Bruce Reistle

Bruce Reistle wrote: >

You mean "Molsen" didn't make that list?

Reply to
JessKidden

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