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Hello,
Can a store bought 5gal glass carboy of spring water be considered
sanitary as is, to use for brewing a batch of beer?

Thanks
BC

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IMHO:

I wouldn't consider 'sanitary as is'.  Always clean your equipment.

later,

tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com



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I got the impression that the 5 gal carboy was full of water when purchased.
Bottled water at least in the US is almost Sterile. (that is better than
sanitized).  I wouldn't contaminate the bottle by trying to sanitize it.
If this was an empty bottle then it depends.  If the bottle was capped when
you bought it, this would suggest that it was already sanitized,  I bought
one like this and sanitized again just as a precaution.  If the empty bottle
was not capped I would suggest that you wash and sanitize it.
(Probably more information than you really wanted)



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I've had some bottled "spring" water - 2.54gal in plastic bottles with the
spigot for the fridge. They had an expiration date. I didn't have enough use
for them to empty them before the date (they were left-overs from a Century -
100mile bike ride).  After the expiration date they were quite foul!   That
water isn't totally dead!  I use bottled water for my brew, but it goes into
the brewpot and is boiled as wort.  I don't think I'd want to use it straight,
not even for n/a Root Beer that'll be gone in a week or so.


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Duhh!!! If the water is "foul" in a plastic bottle, throw both the water and
the bottle into the garbage. You're not going to "Sanitize" it into usable
condition.

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dave wrote:
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I did! I was just pointing out that bottled water might not be absolutely
sterile. So from that experience I recommend boiling it no matter how new it is.


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Those bottles of water are not sterile, but they are usually free of
the common minerals like iron that frequently spoil an otherwise good
batch.  If you are going to use bottled water you have to boil it to
kill everything.  If you are going to use the container that it came in
for wort than you have to sterlize it.  I prefer Iodophor and if you're
concerned about the taste of iodine then empty the sanitizer and rinse
it with boiled water (cooled of course).


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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:49:20 -0800, sadams13 wrote:

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Sterilize?  NO.  You would be very hard pressed to sterilize plastic at
home, without ending up with a big puddle of plastic.

Sanitize?  YES.

They aren't the same thing.  Sterile is sanitary, but sanitary is NOT
sterile.  Please don't use the two terms interchangably.



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I didn't say bottled water was sterile, but then neither is boiled water.
The bottled water company I inspected had a very efficient filtration system
and then disenfected with ozonation. Of the 2000 samples I have tested in
the laboratory the only ones that I found any bacteria at all were the ones
that had a problem (came from a lot that was not processed correctly
"rare").  In almost all of those there was a green slime, or
sediment or some other visible signs that there was a problem. I just think
you should direct your efforts toward keeping your work area clean and
disinfected.

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davespage@adelphia.net says...
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Good info.  The more the better. Thanks.
My issue is I can't deal with the thought of using a sanitizer and just
letting it drain (no rinse).  On my first batch I used an iodine
sanitizer (B.E.S.T).  Carefully followed directions to make a 12-15ppm
solution.  Let everything drain and dry but I could still smell the
faint oder of the iodine.

Yes, my plan is to use a new bottle of water.  Brew the wort and pour it
back in the same, newly opened glass carboy.  I always buy Mountain
Valley Spring water in class 5 gal sealed bottles.  I figured they had
to meet some kind of health rules these days and I'm close to the source
so it's got to be pretty fresh.  Maybe it's worth a chance.  

After all my well made plans on the first batch, it couldn't be any
worse than having my clean kitchen turn in to a 3 ring circus in the
middle of my brew when my son and friends show up to watch a football
came and make snacks and chaos all around me :-o

Thanks
bc

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BCS;12237 Wrote:
> Can a store bought 5gal glass carboy of spring water be
considered
> sanitary as is, to use for brewing a batch of beer?
I use bottled water always with no problems.  If you're worried at all,
before
pouring from the container, flame it (sanitize).

Good luck,
Wild


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