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Has anyone tried using a carbonation pump (Like used in a soda fountain)?



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Roy Boy wrote:

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Yes, lots of people.  Google cornelius keg.



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know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
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Cheerful Charlie

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Regardless of what wbarwell thinks, most soda fountains use a "premix,"
which is a flavor concentrate.  The "flavor" (it's a concentrate) then gets
pumped to a mixer that dumps water and CO2 into a solution with the "flavor"
to create the soda you request from your soda fountain output.  A cornelius
keg set-up is very different than a soda fountain set-up, even though soda
does get distributed to the place where the fountain is in cornelius kegs.
So, unless you want to make a "beer concentrate" (which I'm fairly certain
would drive the alcohol out of the mix) you ain't gonna use a carbonation
pump like they use at a soda fountain.



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Of course there are no beer premixes ala soda.  Obviously.
But if you want a beer on tap, or to carbonate beer in a keg
rather than natural priming, or carbonate beer to bottle it
without lees and dregs natural priming leaves in a bottle,
one usually uses a corny keg and CO2 tank and regulator.

To the original poster, ignore the above nonsense about
soft drinks.

Kegs are pretty standard way of handling home brew.
Google: homebrew, cornelius keg, keg systems.






--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.  "I don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.  It is one of those interesting words that
have two contradictory meanings.  Applied to an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
    -George Orwell "Nineteen Eighty-Four"


Cheerful Charlie

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er ... it wasn't nonsense, it was accurate.
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Yes, this is patently true. However, in a soda machine the kegs are
used to carry non-carbonated concentrate. The only pressure is that
needed to push the concentrate into the machine, where it is mixed
with force carbonated water. This is NOT going to work for beer.

Beer needs to be carbonated in the keg, then dispensed. It can be
force carbonated, or naturally carbonated and CO2 used to push it out
... either works.

steveb

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steveb wrote:

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Errrr.  No.

People have been setting up kegged beer dispensors
for ages.  There are even a number of sites showing
how to set it up permanently in a frigerator.

The bullshit about dispensing soft drinks was
pointless, beside the point and irrelevant.

You can carbonate beer in a keg, or dispense it
from a keg, or carbonate it in a keg and bottle it.
This is what is important.  Ignorant blather
about soft drinks is simply irrelevant to kegging
beer which can be done easily if you are willing
to put out the $$$$ for the gear.

The OP was asking about dispensing homebrewed beer
from a keg it looks like.  No prob. Rack beer from
the secondary to a keg hook up the CO2 carbonate
in a fridge, dispense from a hose and nozzle
when the beer has adequately carbonated to desired
carbonation level.

Google: Homebrew beer, keg

What the OP did not want was an irrelevant and
pointless lecture on soft drinks.

There are dozens of sites that tell how it is
done and sells the kegs and accessories.
Once one knows it can be done with cornelius kegs,
its a matter of deciding if the cost is warranted
for what you want to do.
 
Many people keg beer, many homebrew suppliers
sell the gear. That is what the OP wanted to know.




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No shit, Sherlock.  Rather than blather ignorantly
about soft drinks, speak to the subject.  Beer
and cornelius kegs.  Dispensing beer can be done.
Cornelis keg systems is how its done in the homebrew
world.





--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.  "I don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.  It is one of those interesting words that
have two contradictory meanings.  Applied to an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
    -George Orwell "Nineteen Eighty-Four"


Cheerful Charlie

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The OP asked specifically about dispensing beer with a soda fountain
pump.

Which bit of *you can't read* are you struggluing with the most?

The only irrelevant and pointless contributor in this thread is you
.... get over yourself already.

I'm done with you .... 3rd grade was long ago.

steveb

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Thanks, steveb.  I was gone for a few days.  Watching this guy be a kickfuck
is funny, though.

I am a kegger.  I fully know about Cornelius kegs.  Nowhere in a beer system
is there a carbonation pump, like the OP asked.  Gee, it's even in the title
of the thread!!! SILLY ME!!!!

I said good day.



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changey wrote:

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If anybody had brains enough to point OP to a homebrew
supply website explaining kegs rather than pontificating
on soft drink bullshit, at longwinded but irrelvant
length,you'd have saved OP a lot of trouble.

Of course there ain't no "carbonation pump".
There are CO2 bottles and regulators.

Of course having been a pontificating fuckwit,
said fuckwit can't admit it and go on.

OP simply had an inkling about using a keg but
didn't know the right terminology.



--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.  "I don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.  It is one of those interesting words that
have two contradictory meanings.  Applied to an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
    -George Orwell "Nineteen Eighty-Four"


Cheerful Charlie

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Dear Dork,

Thanks for the link to a homebrew supply store.  It was very helpful.




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changey wrote:

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You were dork enough you didn't know how to use google
to answer your own stupid question?

LOL!




--
"There is a word in Newspeak," said Syme.  "I don't
know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like
a duck.  It is one of those interesting words that
have two contradictory meanings.  Applied to an
opponent, it is abuse; applied to someone you agree
with, it is praise."
    -George Orwell "Nineteen Eighty-Four"


Cheerful Charlie

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plonk

nutter

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steveb wrote:
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Is it really wrong to laugh at the mentally challenged?  Even in this
case?


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hehe

*I refuse to have a battle of wits, with an unarmed man*

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Okay, enough already.  Let's close this topic; everyone seems to agree
a carbonation pump is not a great idea for beer and the homebrewer.
Let's stop the flaming and get this group back to talking beer!


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Wow..can't we be civil to each other here?

wbarwell,

What the OP was referring to is a carbonation pump.  This is the pump
that sits behind soda fountains and mixes the incoming tap water with
the CO2, creating carbonated water on-demand before it's mixed with
the syrup. The pump creates a turbid environment which increases the
surface area of the water and allows it to absorb CO2 at a much faster
rate than just applying pressure and waiting.  Think of it like force
carbing your beer by shaking the piss out of the keg constantly while
under pressure.

 A similar setup could be used where the finished beer is put into the
pump to be mixed with CO2 for carbonating the beer on-demand.

To answer the OP, I've never heard of it being done, and it would
probably just add an unnecessary link in the chain of putting the beer
in your glass.  Add to that the necessity of having a pump for every
beer that you want on tap simultaneousl,y and it's just a hassle.
Also, foaming would probably be a huge issue.  Think about when you
use the soda fountain at your local restaurant, you can only fill the
cup so much before having to wait for the foam to subside.  Beer foam
(head) doesn't go away as fast soda foam.

Or, were you referring to using it to pre-carbonate your beer before
kegging and then dispensing as normal?  Still would probably be a
mess.  Just force carb it the normal way.




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