End of planting time for hops is quickly approaching

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For any of you homebrewers who have been 'sitting on the fence' waiting
to decide if you will grow hops, the time for planting is quickly
running out depending upon where you are located.  The northern areas
probably still have another month or so, but in the southern climes you
need to get your rhizomes planted ASAP.  In addition, the window for
obtaining rhizomes is quickly closing; many suppliers are already out of
stock, and growers such as myself are reluctant to dig up rhizomes once
they have major growth of their plants.  However, you might be lucky to
find some rhizomes on "clearance" at some local homebrew shops, and
based on some recent posts in our Grow-Hops group, it appears that
members in the north, especially Canada, might still be able to provide
rhizomes, as well.  Here is our list of links to sources that you can
check to see what they still have in stock: http://tinyurl.com/growhops
If anyone needs advice on any aspect of growing, harvesting, or storing
homegrown hops, our Grow-Hops group currently has 2,840 members, which
includes many experienced growers and several commercial growers as
well, so we are undoubtedly the best Internet resource for information
to assist you.  If interested: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grow-Hops
It is not difficult to grow hops, and once they are established each
plant should provide between one and two pounds of dried hops;
considering the price of hops, that's a pretty good value.

Cheers.

Bill Velek

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I just got two rhizomes planted last week. I'm in Southern California.
One has a nice big growing shoot now.

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You can say that again, slight dusting of snow last night and guys are
reporting their hops are still under a foot of snow. Good for outdoor
lagering though.

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dshesnicky@yahoo.com wrote:

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But interestingly, there are Canadian homebrewers looking for hop
rhizomes and they can't seem to get them; probably because they haven't
been able to be harvested yet.  And of course I don't track the weather
everywhere; I just know that for many homebrewers' locations, time is
_starting_ to get short -- at least for ordering them from commercial
sources because we're getting lots of reports that many sources are out
of stock already.  Here in Arkansas, I have some hop bines that are 7'
tall now, so we are well beyond the start of planting, and the way our
weather is here, if a brewer plants rhizomes three weeks from now, they
might very well need to struggle a bit.  My point is that if anyone is
considering planting hops this year, I wouldn't wait any time at all to
order the rhizomes (and by the way, I don't see them; I give them away
for free).

Cheers.

Bill Velek, www.tinyurl.com/BVELEK => to my following homebrewer sites:
Grow-Hops: Homebrewer's Garden: hops/barley/herbs, with 2,800+ members!
BrewEquip: exclusively about brewing equipment, now has 1,200+ members!
"Homebrewers" Team donated 216+ YEARS of computing to medical research!

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My cascade and golding hops from last year haven't sprouted yet
(Texas).  I ordered/planted one rhizome  of tettnang last week on a
whim.  I don't expect it to survive in Tx.

--
frater mus
Adequate Mousetrap Brewhouse
http://www.mousetrap.net/mouse/brewing/
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Bill Velek wrote:
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Yeah but from what I've learned in another newsgroup its the beginning
of the pot planting season. I've heard those flower tops make a
wonderful adjunct to a batch of home brew - can't testify to that myself
but thought I'd pass that along...

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AL wrote:

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Maybe so re the planting time, but I thought that stuff required higher
temps than mere boiling in order to extract the THC; been told that it
takes something like three or four hundred degrees.  Basically, I've
heard that adding it to beer for extra 'kick' is just an urban myth.
Never tried it myself, so I have no personal knowledge.  Don't know what
it does to the quality of beer, either.  Seems to me that it might be
better to keep them separate; drink your homebrew and smoke a joint.

Speaking of that stuff, you do know that hops is in the same family as
cannabus (sp?), don't you.  Consequently, there have been a number of
efforts to try to graft one onto another -- hops onto maryjane and vice
versa.  So far no THC in the resulting product.

Cheers.

Bill Velek, www.tinyurl.com/BVELEK => to my following homebrewer sites:
Grow-Hops: Homebrewer's Garden: hops/barley/herbs, with 2,800+ members!
BrewEquip: exclusively about brewing equipment, now has 1,200+ members!
"Homebrewers" Team donated 216+ YEARS of computing to medical research!

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Bill Velek wrote:
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sound advice!
from the 70's - God made grass, man made booze  -  who do YOU trust?



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yes



aaawww maaaannn, that's a bummer..


:)

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I agree, draconian drug laws in the over the past 50 yrs have stifled
research with marijuana in the US.


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barnabyr@ureach.com wrote:
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It's just Prohibition all over again. What's really crazy is the cost.
Here in California we have a budget crisis, which wouldn't exist if we
weren't spending more on prisons than on schools. Personally I'd be
a lot more upset if my kids started smoking tobacco than if they started
smoking marijuana now and then on a weekend.

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taxing legal marijuana would add new revenue to the federal/state/
local government, free up prison space currently filled with non-
violent offenders, and reduce drug violence in Mexico. What's not to
like?

Roger

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On Apr 8, 7:49am, barna...@ureach.com wrote:
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Just one more thing to go buy on the reservation to avoid federal
taxes.  ;-)

Mark

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barnabyr@ureach.com wrote:
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Free up prison space, yes, reduce violent crime, maybe, but don't count
on tax revenue. Pot can grow in nearly any region of the US and since
the plant requires no particular processing before use, folks would just
grow it at home along with their garden or house plants. There are more
reasonable arguments in favor of decriminalizing than here are in favor
of outlawing it, but using the tax revenue argument isn't very
persuasive. Take us for example, we brew our own beer and are allowed to
do so by law up to certain generous quantities so other than the sales
tax we might pay for some of the ingredients and equipment there are no
tax revenues on our home brew/wine.  I'm curious - has anyone here ever
been "audited" on their homebrewing?

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AL wrote:
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Nope and I've been doing it openly since 1976

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Way less than 1% of the beer drunk in the US is home-brewed and
escapes taxation. So, I would say that the tax on beer is pretty
effective

Roger

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I can't see the effort of sticking seeds in a garden bed or house
planter being comparable to the effort of making even the simplest kit
beer. So I would suspect way more than 1% of the pot smoked would be
home-grown as compared to home-brew consumption, especially if the
taxation drove the pot price to cigarette levels. I just don't see the
tax revenue argument holding water.


FWIW - bottom posting makes better usenet threads



barnabyr@ureach.com wrote:

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Ever hear of home-grown tobacco? Most of the price of cigarettes is
tax, but I've never heard of anyone resorting to growing their own

Roger

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barnabyr@ureach.com writes:
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I suspect the vast majority of people are simply wayyyy to lazy to grow
their own if the store-bought price is anywhere near reasonable....

-Miles

--
Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as
they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a
cynic's eyes to improve his vision.

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barnabyr@ureach.com wrote:


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For good reasons, primarily due to the climate, soil, space and labor
requirements - or simply put, inconvenience. Raising tobacco is like
farming, raising pot is like keeping house plants. Tobacco isn't exactly
ready for use at cutting time, consider more space and appropriate
environment for proper curing. Several steps are required to bring a
tobacco plant to the finished product. Pot is ready to use as soon as a
few leaves, or buds, are plucked & dried.


I'm not saying NO ONE would buy pot, but to argue that it will generate
appreciable tax revenues, when growing the stuff at home is SO easy, is
just not going to fly.

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AL wrote:
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I know people who have grown marijuana for their own use, in a fairly
rural area. The big thing they complained about was that their plants
would mysteriously disappear in the middle of the night.

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