What would happen If I use Saflager instead of Nottingham ale in an English Pale Ale, would it not ferment out if I didn't Lager it? I've never done a Lager (don't have the equipment or environment), but messed up and ordered a lager yeast and don't want to throw it away.
Thanks
Monkeyboy
Some things to consider about lager yeast.....It essentially ferments from the bottom to the top, opposite of ale yeast, and therefore a closed fermentation is pretty much essential to ward off wild yeasts and other bacteria contamination. Also, fermentation takes place best (although not exclusively) at lower temperatures than ale yeast. If you have a closed system and can keep the temp at or below 60F, then I would go ahead and do it, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Sanitation is of utmost concern. By the way, Saf also makes ale strains in addition to the lager, and these, IMHO are FAR superior to the nottingham varieties. Just take a look at the amount of wild yeast that nottingham vs Saf has, should give an idea of which I would use.
Rob
It would ferment fine, but the qualities imparted by a lager yeast aren't what you want for an English ale.
---------->Denny
And vice versa the English ale recipe to a lager.
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You would be simulating a Steam-style brew
Yodar
Thank you all, I think I will order the SAF ale yeast and try for a steam beer later (Yodar, I've never had steam beer, but I may try it after I get this pale ale done,nothing ventured eh?)
Again,thanks I have benefited fom all of your experience over the last few months just by reading the posts. You guys ROCK!!!! Monkeyboy
"Simulating" being the key word...many people think that ANY lager yeast fermented warm will make a steam beer...not so! You need a specific strain that's evolved to work under those conditions.
--------->Denny
Monkeyboy, do some googlers on steam recipes and make some decisions on how you want to brew. extract, partial mash or AG
here are some ingredients that are supposed to be in steams by definition (my words)
-------------------------- Wyeast California Lager #2112
For Steam-style beers. Malty profile. Warm fermenting strain that ferments well up to 65 deg. F. while keeping lager characteristics.
Northern Brewer Leaf Hops - 2oz.
Classic "Steam" beer hop. Used primarily as a bittering hop. This is an English bred variety with some aroma but a high bittering quality,alpha 7-9%.
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I got a nice steam clone with partial mash grains from Listermans.com
I'm sure other suppliers near you offer simialr kits.
Heartshomebrew.com here in my hometown has one too
all are about #25-$30
yodar
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