Lager yeast in English Pale

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What would happen If I use Saflager instead of Nottingham ale in an English
Pale Ale, would it not ferment out if I didn't Lager it?
I've never done a Lager (don't have the equipment or environment), but
messed up and ordered a lager yeast and don't want to throw it away.

Thanks

Monkeyboy



Re: Lager yeast in English Pale
Some things to consider about lager yeast.....It essentially ferments from
the bottom to the top, opposite of ale yeast, and therefore a closed
fermentation is pretty much essential to ward off wild yeasts and other
bacteria contamination. Also, fermentation takes place best (although not
exclusively) at lower temperatures than ale yeast. If you have a closed
system and can keep the temp at or below 60F, then I would go ahead and do
it, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Sanitation is of utmost concern. By
the way, Saf also makes ale strains in addition to the lager, and these,
IMHO are FAR superior to the nottingham varieties. Just take a look at the
amount of wild yeast that nottingham vs Saf has, should give an idea of
which I would use.

Rob

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monkeyboy@evadale.com wrote:
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It would ferment fine, but the qualities imparted by a lager yeast
aren't what you want for an English ale.

    ---------->Denny
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And vice versa the English ale recipe to a lager.
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Denny Conn wrote:
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You would be simulating a Steam-style brew

Yodar

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Yodar wrote:

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"Simulating" being the key word...many people think that ANY lager yeast
fermented warm will make a steam beer...not so!  You need a specific
strain that's evolved to work under those conditions.

    --------->Denny

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Re: Lager yeast in English Pale
Thank you all, I think I will order the SAF ale yeast and try for a steam
beer later (Yodar, I've never had steam beer, but I may try it after I get
this pale ale done,nothing ventured eh?)

Again,thanks
I have benefited fom all of your experience over the last few months just by
reading the posts.
You guys ROCK!!!!
Monkeyboy


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Re: (Monkeyboy) Lager yeast in English Pale
monkeyboy@evadale.com wrote:
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Monkeyboy, do some googlers on steam recipes
and make some decisions on how you want to brew.
extract, partial mash or AG

here are some ingredients
that are supposed to be in
steams by definition (my words)
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Wyeast California Lager #2112

   For Steam-style beers. Malty profile. Warm fermenting
strain that ferments well up to 65 deg. F. while keeping
lager characteristics.

Northern Brewer Leaf Hops - 2oz.

   Classic "Steam" beer hop. Used primarily as a bittering hop.
This is an English bred variety with some aroma but a high
bittering quality,alpha 7-9%.

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I got a nice steam clone with partial mash grains from Listermans.com

I'm sure other suppliers near you offer simialr kits.

Heartshomebrew.com here in my hometown has one too

all are about #25-$30

yodar

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