Who is using a copper fermenter?

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I know that over the years I've read posts from folks who were using, or
planning to use, conical fermenters made out of copper.  There are, no
doubt, other brewers who are doing the same but never posted about it.
If you are one of those folks, could you please tell me how your beer is
turning out now with the conical in comparison to how it was when you
brewed before you got the conical?

Many thanks!!!

Cheers, Bill Velek
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I'm not familiar with people using copper fermenters.  Copper works fine
for a kettle (commercial breweries do this) or things like a wort chiller
because of the relatively short contact time.  I believe that copper in
high concentrations is toxic to yeast though, so it would make a fairly poor
choice for any long term storage, like a fermenter.


John.

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wouldn't a copper fermenter cost more than a stainless steel anyway?


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I do not know of anyone using a ~copper~ conical fermenter.  The person
who posted a article on building a copper conical e-mailed me that he was
no longer using it.  I did not ask why.  I suggest everyone print off a
copy of the article (http://hbd.org/brewniversity/engineering/conical)
because it is well-written and the math is perfect.

My take on conical fermenters is that they are absolutely terrific
IF you can afford a one of them.  You can get lower prices at

U.S. Plastics ..... http://tinyurl.com/p53a5 Valves are not included.  Look at the tanks because cleaning under the
upper lip needs to be considered.  Food-grade plastic is "high density
polyethylene" (HDPE).  These tanks are NOT food-grade plastic.  They
are "medium density polyethylene" (MDPE).  Stands are extra.

Toledo Metal ...... http://tinyurl.com/lqpdr Again valves are not included.  Lids are extra.  I found nothing about
stands.

High Gravity
http://www.highgravitybrew.com/ProductCart/pc/viewCat_P.asp?idCategory=159 They put it all together.  The price for a 6.5 gallon plastic conical is
attractive.  I found no information on type of plastic.  But if I was
looking for a 10 gallon plus stainless steel conical, I'd be talking with
Toledo Metal.

Dick

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Hi, Dick. That's for the great links.  The tanks are not food-grade, so
are they ok to use as beer fermenters? I'm not sure if you are dissing
these tanks or recommending them? Thanks and good brewing!


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DELONGPREBUM wrote:
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And furthermore, what do you think about this product from US Plastic
Corporation?


Closed-Dome Polypropylene Tanks

One piece rotationally molded,cylindrical construction assures
seamless, leakproof service. Large 6 1/4 inch fill well has threaded
screw closure with EPDM gasket to reduce evaporation,odors,vapors and
protects contents from contamination. A 2 inch buttress thread bung
allows easy installation of adapter. Translucent,not UV
resistant,graduated and complies with FDA Regulations 177.1520 for food
service.


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I am neither dissing them nor recommending them - just making sure you
understand what they are offering you.

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Do us all a favor and learn to use tinyurl.com.  See tinyurl.com/ggcco

That is not a conical fermenter and it is almost certainly not
food-grade plastic.  It starts at 30 gallons.  Do you make 30 gal.
batchs?  I am building a home brewery for 10 gal. batches and have
yet to meet anyone who brews more than 10 gallons at a pop.

Dick

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 >> Hi, Dick. That's for the great links.  The tanks are not
food-grade, so
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I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
Would these tanks be appropriate for ferementing beer?
Is "food-grade" the same as "beer-wort" grade"?

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Sorry. I though it might be easier to write out the stuff directly,
rather than send people off to another site. I don't care much for
internet shortcuts so I won't go off to that "tiny url" place. No
disrespect intended.


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Does the shape really matter?

and it is almost certainly not

I'm unclear about the "almost certainly not" part


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Thanks for yer quick reply to my query.  I do NOT make 30 gal. batches
but I WOULD LIKE to. Really.

Has anyone out there ever heard of ANY homebrewer who made MASSIVE
amounts of homebrew? Thanks!


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   Our club has access to some equipment that allows us
to boil about a 50-gallon batch.
--
Joel Plutchak          "People who drink wine with barbecue deserve to be
plutchak@[...]          jeered at and socially ostracized." - Mike Stewart

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Joel wrote:
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I LOVE YOUR CLUB!
I LOVE YOUR CLUB!
I LOVE YOUR CLUB!


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Bill Velek wrote:
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                  I believe nowadays copper is used moreover as a
cosmetic enhancement, such as "jacketed" fermenters. It looks good but
isn't as durable under the rigors of brewing as in direct exposure to
to the wort. It becomes too labor intensive to keep after it. I admit I
use a copper pickup tube on the bottem of my mash tun/ lauter tun and
my brew pot. After a few batches it's evident that I need to take it
apart and clean all those related parts.

                        Steve


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