Quality of boiled water on the tea

Below this I've pasted part of an article by my tea supplier about the importance of using freshly boiled water. My question is... if in a commercial Tea Room I want to use one of those large Urns that keeps constantly hot water for pouring on tap... does anyone know the method they use for keeping the water hot? Are they constantly re-boiling the water or does it boil then hold it at just below boiling?

If a system like this holds boiled water at a high temperature just below boiling, is it still losing the all important CO2 qualities needed (at a slower rate than boiling it off but still decreasing)? I wonder if there is any research on this, I assume it's fairly simple science.

If a large hot water urn is not ideal then perhaps a line of variable temperature kettles set to different temps for Black tea, Oolong, Green tea etc. Unfortunately I'm struggling to find a commercial product that fits this description though I've seen these Upton Variable Temperature Kettles (ordered from a manufacturer and labelled thier own, not sure who the original manufacturer is) PDF info:

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With the intention of being a busy tea room I am aware of how much boiling kettles for each order will slow things down, while I'll nurture the slower nature of the tea experience I am aware of needing a compromise with the necessity of turnover, but ultimately I won't compromise on quality at the end of the day. If there is not better alternative to simply boiling a kettle I'll just do that :o)

Any knowledge or experience with this anyone??

Look forward to hearing back, Jon

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" Taste, colour and mouth feel depend on the interaction between the two main components of tea, polyphenols and caffeine. Each component is astringent on its own, but as a complex the astringent character is reduced.

Water is known to contain dissolved gases absorbed from the air. Carbon dioxide (CO2) gas that is present in water affects the acidity. Acidity of water plays a critical roll in the ionization of tea polyphenols and it contributes to the stability of the above complex.

CO2 in water is gradually released during the boiling process. Re- boiling will in fact further reduce CO2 levels, resulting in a decrease in the acidity. As mentioned above this will affect the caffeine and polyphenol complexion, and bring about changes in the colour as well as the character of the brew.

Twice boiled water will therefore affect the taste of a good tea and hence our request that only freshly boiled water is used for brewing "

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Most of them don't get anywhere near boiling, which is really bad for making black tesa.

I think dissolved oxygen release is more important than dissolved CO2, but I may be wrong. I will agree, though, that tea made with water that has been on the boil for too long tastes flat.

The only large-scale commercial product capable of making large amounts of boiling water that I have seen is the Bunn-O-Matic, which has a boiling water tap available as an option. I would suspect that with some minor modification, an appliance tech could add a thermostatic cut-off to reduce the temperature of the thing, too. What you want is called a "flash boiler."

How much tea do you intend on selling, and of what kind? If 90% of what you sell is black tea, then having a flash boiler for boiling water and then making the other teas with a kettle would be fine. If 90% of what you sell is green tea, that would be a disaster.

And, of course, you can get away with murder brewing most tisanes...

--scott

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It is important, and I've kicked the idea around of opening my own tea shop and this was one of the areas I spent a lot of time thinking about. My opinion right now on it is to actually boil the water either per pot of tea ordered and keep a few kettles at steady temps for certain periods of time for individual cups ordered... then just change out the water at those intervals. The water doesn't have to go to waste, it can be used for plants or any number of other things besides tea.

I like that bit of personal service it offers and it seems like the right thing for me.

People wait around a Starbucks for their espresso, so I see no reason they can't wait for the best water.

- Dominic

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Dominic T.

Water ist the most important ingredient in the tea you are going to be drinking and hopefully enjoying to the extend that you will long for a refill.

in a nutshell: only fresh water does the job. If you ahve 6 US$ and a 60 $ Darjeeling and you take anythingelse but freshly brewed water the two teas will taste the same. A hint of Darjeeling will be there but there are 54US$ :-) lost in the process. For the restaurant and bar environments there are proven solutions for the challenge of having to prepare a good cup of tea in a hurry without compromising on the quality.

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indiantealover

Jonny: You are asking some great questions...

I just did a demo of tea for a restaurant, and it was a disaster. The tea was at such low temperature that it produced neither the liquor nor the color

Yes, what Scott says is very true. Besides, the temperature of the large boiler depends on how often it is calibrated. Most people will calibrate it and forget about it until they have a problem.

In India, where they have been brewing tea for hundreds of years, each batch is freshly brewed with fresh water. Tea is not something that can be made with water that has been boiling for hours.

While a variable temperature kettle is fine, I would recommend going with the low tech approach - the traditional kettle - that is boiled on the stove. Get two or three such kettles, and experiment with them. When the first one is half empty, put the second kettle on the stove...and so on.

For Oolongs and Greens, you may arrive at a simple solution - such as pouring the water into the cup or pot for X amount of time before adding the tea (you'll need to figure out the X depending on the elevation you are at)

Good for you! Some times its better to not take a short cut. This will really help you differentiate yourself from others. Make sure you inform your clients about this as if they don't know about it, the value of this process will be lost on them.

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