Johnnie Walker

As sad as it may be to some, I love Johnnie Walker. Sure I have tasted others but there is just something about Johnnie that keeps me coming back. Of course, I realize it is blended and most scotch drinkers are after the single malts, but it is still very good. I usually drink Johnnie Black and soda (I think I can get away with the soda water because I am a girl and most girls won't even drink scotch) but I would like to have a runner up for those moments I find myself at a bar that doesn't have Johnnie. Usually I am in luck getting Johnnie at a bar but sometimes they don't carry it and they offer me Jack Daniels. Now, I am no dummy. Jack Daniels is completely different from Johnnie Walker but sometimes bartenders have no idea what they are doing. For those types of situations and a change of pace, I would like to have a couple of scotches to fall back on. Any suggestions?

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Jenn
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If you like blends, almost every bar will have Chivas. If they don;t have Johnny Walker or Chivas, then they will probably have Cutty Sark. If you are in a bar that only has Cutty Sark, you should slowly back out the door.

Most bars will have Glenlivet single malt, which really isn't bad.

Jack Daniels, as you know, isn't scotch. It's Tennesee whisky-not even close. Any bartender that tries to substitute one for the other has no business being behind the bar.

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Beans

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Jenn

Scotch and Coke???? Wow!!! Anyway, despite the fact that most of the discussion here is about single malts, there are some good blends out there, and JW Black is pretty high on my own list. If you can't get JW you might try Dewar's.

HS

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Howard

I once ordered a scotch and coke... I had tried rye and coke; didn't like it - but I did like scotch - so I thought I'd see what it was like.

The bartender looked aghast - refused to serve such a desecration to the scotch!

I gave up mixed drinks...

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Neal Reid

"Jenn" schreef in bericht news: snipped-for-privacy@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

They can pride themselves, but it's the law in the US; they cannot re-use barrels. Probably done to protect the barrel-producing industry.

Which is obvious: in Scotland it is alowed to re-use (and they are less expensive...). Tasting the difference between whisky and whiskey: It's not a bad thing to re-use the barrels...

Greetings, AA.

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<AA>

This is a question and not a judgement, if you are using a mixer, does it really matter which scotch you use? I can see how you'd tell the difference between a whiskey & soda and a whisky & soda. However, if you can tell the difference between 2 scotches with a mixer in you really ought to have a go at a malt with a bit of water in.

BTW - following on from some of the other replies - whisky and cola is quite common in the UK but Jack and Coke is more so.

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the man with no idea

It could be that, and it could also be a form of quality control, since a lot of the big, bold bourbon flavor comes from these freshly charred oak barrels. If they were re-used, the product wouldn't be as big and bracing (spoken from someone delighted with the single-barrel Buffalo Trace in the wee snifter in front of me). And as they influence scotch, I've had malts that taste TOO much like bourbon--as if the distillery was using ex-bourbon barrels for the first time--such that the char and wood-soaked-by-corn-mash character can permeate and overwhelm the mildly peat-aromatized, and lightly malt-sugared barley in the scotch. My guess is that these bourbony-flavoured scotches were aged in new purchased barrels fresh from Kentucky so that the bourbon influence can become too reeky--whereas a barrel that has been used two, three, or four times will lend less pungent bourbon aroma to the scotch, and instead provide just a gentle overtone that is just a bit evocative, and ultimately (many times) symbiotic and enhancing to subtler barley-malt/peat characteristics of single malt.

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Douglas W Hoyt

Yeah, wow! Everyone knows the best drink is a shot of scotch in a short glass of milk -- the "Great White Hope."

-- Larry

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pltrgyst

As I recall (and I could be wrong) it was the lumber industry that was being protected by this.

I recently discovered that my great uncle (on my father's side) was head cooper at Jonnnie Walker. That came as a bit of a shock, I can tell you.

Jim

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Jim

Ahem ---------^ h

bloody keyboard...

Jim

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Jim

As a confirmed cheapskate who rarely has the coin to afford a single malt in a bar ($10 and up; mostly up), I strongly second your preference for JW Black. IMO, it is so far superior to generally-available blends (12 yrs and under), including the overated Chivas Regal,, that I will frequently switch to a vodka-martini (at least you get an olive) if for some unknown reason the establishment is clueless enough not to stock Black. I find Cutty to be the Scotch equivalent of Coors Light--best drunk once during one's lifetime and barely representative of its species--and once nearly choked to death on J&B after seeing John Forsythe drink some in the movie "Topaz." Unfortunately, my second favorite blend, White Horse (a true bargain IMO), is infrequently stocked as well, so it makes a poor second choice. If I was in a secret CIA detention center and forced to pick between "water-boarding" and making another choice in a popular blend, it would be Dewar's.

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T. Early

Are you requesting Red Label, or the 12 year Black Label? If you're drinking Red, you may want to try Famous Grouse. It is, far and away, the most popular blended scotch in England. Johnnie Red is a little sharp, which makes it a great candidate for mixing, but Famous Grouse is a bit smoother and is quite pleasant on the rocks.

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jake2bus

Hmmm....sounds like it would go well with peanut butter and anchovy pizza......

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mdavis

Another reasonably priced blend is Black Bottle(around $25USD). Personally I like it more than the white horse(even the 12yo white horse). Dewer's also has a 12yo reserve blend floating around which I've seen for around $15. It's not as good as JW Black, or Black Bottle, but drinkable. Chivas 18yo is an excellent blend imho. I think I like it better than JW Gold, and it cost less too... but for the $47 price it fetches...I'd much rather have a Laproaig, Caol ila or something along those lines;-)

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Matt

Well, I guess that I could really easy tast if Ardberg or Laphroaig was used :-) and if any kind of US brand was used. And about Coke and whisky I've seen that myself, a 20 yrs Macallan + Coke.....

-- Kim @ WhiskyForum.com

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Kim Haverblad

I'm having some trouble finding a regional supplier with 20yr Coke.

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Douglas W Hoyt

Dewars!

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Scott W

You get a Famous Grouse Malt too.

Famous Grouse contains in the blend Highland Park and The Macallan.

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Marvin

Uzytkownik "Marvin" napisal:

Would that be a guarantee of the highest quality in your opinion?

Cheers, Rajmund

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Rajmund

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