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Hello again. I see my comments caused some response and for the most part it appears positive. I could pick apart other messages like people did to mine, but that's not really why we are here. I grew up in the Star Trek generation so often find guidance and understanding from it. So if you will indulge me for just a minute I am seeing alt.drinks people as being black on the right and white on the left while the PLOWED people are black on the left and white on the right. Obviously if you are not up on your Trek this will sound like nonsense but suffice to say that we are all about the same under the surface.

Unfortunately we do not have the time to wait for our children's children's children to mix up and become gray. When I stated before that we should each stick to our own boards, that was really aimed at the derogatory comments being made and cross posted from both sides.

PLOWED is a small group of whisky enthusiasts that have known each other for several years and get together regularly to indulge in the water of life. If we appear to have our own "lingo" that is primarily to save typing time on chats and is NOT meant as some kind of secret language or code. The PLOWED board is often used more to plan gatherings and help each other locate special bottles of whisky than it is to describe the whisky itself.

I cannot speak for anyone else but I for one am interested in meeting new people and learning more about whisky. Therefore I would like to get involved in the alt.drinks group to learn from them and share whatever knowledge that I can contribute. I only hope that this message is received in the spirit with which it was sent.

Alan

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Alan
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It isn't often that whisky and Star Trek are mentioned together. (Although Scotty did always seem to have some "veri auld Scootch" secreted away for just the right moment.)

Sounds like your intentions were (are) good.

It's a pretty friendly bunch here - and helpful too. If you have a question (or an answer) post away! I don't know what the original cross poster's intention was. He was probably just a troll; but he could have been merely confused, mistaken, or misdirected.

This gives me an opportunity to post what I've learned about the group charter and the group FAQ. Not to imply that you've committed any faux pas - you haven't. Just thought you might find them interesting reading if you (or any lurkers out there) haven't been reading the group for long.

So, what have you been drinking lately?

What do you like?

Bart

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Bart

I don't like Isle of Jura. I also had a really rotten Tomatin once (if it rhymes it must be true) but I've had other not so rotten Tomatins since. Which don't you like (just curious)?

the NW corner of the US on the Pacific Ocean.

I live in Madison, Wisconsin. You know, Usenet is usually a mostly impersonal place, because it is so very public. Many Usenet groups start to attract graffiti-spraying vandals or should-be mental patients* so many people on usenet do not have high expectations of the level of personal interaction, though this group has been an incredible exception, give or take the occasional lost derelict. I wrote to PLOWED for a few months a couple years back, but then an Ardbeggeddon happened in Vegas one January, and I didn't go, and the group turned into non-stop in-jokes and back-patting between those who went for a period of weeks, so I dropped off! There was absolutely nothing wrong with it--I'm sure I would have loved it if I had gone too. Now I only write here, but sometimes for not weeks or months at a time (and it has been too damn hot this summer when I was in Europe to drink any whisky) and often put on an air of bluster and inanity to protect my persona, not to mention my emotional well-being, from the vagaries of Usenet. Also--taking what gets written with a few grains of salt is a lot better, IMHO, than adding water. I'm sure you will like it here too!

  • (and I have seen some very pleasant people in a couple travel newsgroups be stalked and ravaged for months by real sociopaths, for no real reason--to the point that they've had to initiate legal action!)
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Douglas W. Hoyt

Another good reason to leave the Doctor and his coloured whiskies alone...

Good to see you've decided to stay on Alan. Davin (who says hi and thanks btw) and I were talking last night about the many colourful characters who inhabit the various online whisky communities and the general consensus is that we are indeed fortunate to have this rather unique online social dimension to a hobby that could otherwise become, for the most part, a solo pursuit.

For extra laughs, those of you who follow MALTS-L will appreciate the fact that Davin was wearing his "no salt in whisky" shirt (another inside joke)... and in anticipation of this Charles wore his Margaritaville shirt that displays a salt shaker on the front pocket. Much back slapping and har-de-har's ensued...

Whiskies sampled last night included Ardbeg Lord of the Isles, Bunnahabhain 1968 Auld Acquaintance, Oban 14 OB, Oban 32 OB, Glenronach 12 Original, Glendronach

10 Hart Brothers (ex-bourbon), Aberlour 1990, Aberlour 12 Double Casked, and Campbeltown Loch 25. Lively conversation, cheese and crackers, gossip and reminiscings competed as usual with the drams for equal attention so we put together a small care package of minis for him to take home..

The Oban 32 OB was by far and away the hit of the night but the Campbeltown Loch

25 left us in awe and reverence for the quality-price ratio and mouthwatering dose of older Springbank in it. The most touching dram was a gift from Davin that he sourced especially for me from his recent trip to Scotland with the other Malt Maniacs
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a sample of a rare, private bottling from casks inherited by a friend of a friend's father. I've unfortunately been asked to keep quiet about this until he and the other Malt Maniacs have a chance to unveil it on their website but it is a surprising gem and the fact that Davin rescued this remaining sample on my behalf from the snapping, frothing jaws of the other maniacs was particularly thoughtful -- as I'm sure any of you who have met him would concur, Davin is a great guy.

Johanna

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Johanna

Thanks Johanna. Open forums such as these combined with the fact that we ARE drinking can often lead otherwise friendly people to say things they shouldn't.

It sounds like I do have a lot in common with this group and I look forward to getting to know the people here. I had the pleasure of meeting Davin back in April at a PLOWED gathering near Rochester, NY.

Alan

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Alan

Douglas, I hope it was the Gmo Cellar 13, it's fantastic, up there with the Glenmorangie 15 and as I mentioned before, I don't care much for their younger bottlings.

Johanna

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Johanna

with the Glenmorangie 15 and as I mentioned before, I don't care much for their younger bottlings.

No it was strictly dullsville at FRA, so I just stocked up on everyday malt--the Glenmorangie 10 for 28 Euro and an Ardbeg 10 for 36 Euro.

By and large it was a meagre and uneventful shopping summer. The highlight was a Hedges & Butler Clynelish 10 at 43% from the Monoprix in Lyon for only 23 Euro. Not only a great price, but this is a fine expression of Clynelish. Delightfully rich, distinctive, and balanced--a real winner. I bought a Chieftain's Caol Isla there too, but it was a grear disappointment. Dull, tired, weak--it does not sustain interest--barely drinkable! Picked up a Bruichladdich 10 for 32 Euro and it was as nice as ever. Didn't drink much whisky this scorching summer!

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Douglas W. Hoyt

I second your comments on the Hedges & Butler Clynelish 10... all the things you said and at a great price, a fantastic economalt bottling, well balanced, playful and a great candied, peppery finish. Unfortunately I got the impression that Serge was not as taken with this Clynelish as I was -- am I right Serge or was it Johannes who was underwhelmed?

Johanna

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Johanna
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Serge Valentin

Hi Serge,

I didn't realize that the Clynelish 10 came from different casks... I thought it was a one shot deal.

Again ditto on the Teaninich 21yo: it wasn't bargain priced over here but it was really good. IMO Teaninich needs age to smooth out the "hurt me!" bits.

Johanna

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Johanna
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Serge Valentin

several casks, and I know some are much better than others. I'm sure Douglas' bottle came from a different cask, because yes, for approx 20 euros, it's a single cask bottling! (the one I have is cask #005895).

I'm afraid I didn't note the cask of my original bottle. But I did bring back another unopened bottle--it is from cask #005897

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Douglas W. Hoyt

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