TN: SOBER does 61 Issan, 70 Nenin, .my first Grand Tinels, 95 Bdx, more

Mark hosted SOBER Tuesday. Instead of our usual Champagne start, he went wi th 2 sherries, the Equipo Navazos Fino No. 24 & the Equipo Navazos Manzanil la no. 30. I'm just not a sherr guy- I can appreciate that these were compl ex but I couldn't find them appealing.

To the table for a chicken/kale soup with ginger and lemongrass, and the fi rst blind flight (whites). Took a while to get that it was a Burg horizonta l (I thought Rioja), but once Mark said yes John got 1989 on first guess, a nd that middle wine was Meursault

#1- pretty oxidized, oth, but fun to taste for level at such age. 1989 Sauz et Bourgogne Blanc C #2- honied, ripe, big, mature 1989 Chavy-Chouet "Les Narvaux" Meursault 1er B #3 Seemed a bit volatile at first, but calmed down, pear and walnut, 1989 S auzet "Referts" Puligny Montrachet 1er B/B-

First red flight (with excellent pot roasted with mashed potatoes and green beans)

#1 - Herbal, black fruit,opens nicely, long 1995 Calon-Segur B+/A- #2 -more restrained, pretty tight, but you can sense the power. 1995 La Mis sion Haut Brion B+?

Second Red Flight Would have never guessed producer, because I think I'd never tried before.

#1- corked. 1988 Grand Tinel Chateauneuf-du-Pape

#2- full, ripe but balanced, dark berry fruit, licorice, spice, my fave of flight. 1989 Grand Tinel Chateauneuf-du-Pape B+/A-

#3 - ripe fruit, smoke, a little tarry edge that had me thinking Piedmont ( but someone got Rhone before I ventured my guess) 1990 Grand Tinel Chateaun euf-du-Pape B+

Third Red Flight #1 Sweet, complete, delicious, complex and a pointe. Really nice. 1981 Gran d Tinel Chateauneuf-du-Pape A-

#2 maderized , too bad, this can be a great wine. . 1981 Beaucastel Chateau neuf-du-Pape C

Fourth Red Flight #1- OK, we're back in Bdx! Full, rich, long, sweet cassis and cigarbox, my WOTN. 1961 Ch. d'Issan. A-

#2-Quieter at first, opens nicely, redder fruits with a large herbal compon ent, elegant. 1970 Ch. Nenin A-/B+

Great lineup, learned a new fave CdP producer, great food and company.

Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a p arty where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivi ty, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

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DaleW
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Hi Dale,

Really glad you got to explore these Grand T> #1- corked. 1988 Grand Tinel Chateauneuf-du-Pape

Too bad. This is a lovely wine, fairly soft now but always more fruit driven than the other 2. In those days we said feminine, but I think that term is out of fashion now!

Great wine, mythical vintage, the best of the big three.

On release I thought '90 would be even better than '89 because of the tarry structures. Initially bigger boned but also more rustic than 89. I was wrong, but still a great vintage, we have a jeroboam as well as a couple of bottles.

I'm glad to hear this as we have a mag but otherwise I haven't tasted this for many years. Sounds like a match for an upcoming roe buck.

cheers,

-E

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Emery Davis`

Emery Davis` wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

Sounds mouthwatering!!!! I'll take a plane if you invite me (it's a magnum, after all).

s.

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santiago

Piling on here, Grand Tinel is indeed one of the best traditional CdPs left: unpretentious but honest. They're also still reasonably priced when one can find them in the market. They used to be brought into my area by a local importer, but they no longer exist as such.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

the 2010 gran tinel CdP is available here. I'll give it a go.

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Michael Nielsen

The nearest stockist for me is some 300km away and they want $80 (~$65US) for a 2007 CdP "Heres" and ~$53 (~$42US) for the 2010 CdP. They also stock a CdP Cuvee Alexis for a bit more than the straight CdP. Graham

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graham

Although I taste the various wines almost every year we really only buy the traditional (domaine) and the CdR, which is also excellent and great value. They've also come out with the Domaine St Paul, but I don't know these wines as well (although I've tasted a few with young Christophe).

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Emery Davis`

:) Plenty of opportunities for CdP and roe buck at my house, Santiago!

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Emery Davis`

Finally, a wine thats not overpriced here then, it is 42USD here, too :)

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Michael Nielsen

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