Stroh's anyone?

Yep. Tried it back in the day, too, when there was an actual Stroh's brewery making it.

I wouldn't even go that far. The stuff was standard American industro-lager, with the requisite watery body and trace-of- threshold hop flavors, and the weak aroma. I remained unconvinced then, and am still unconvinced now. Now, it's just another part of a marketing portfolio of labels. It's a mass-produced beer made by the same big brewery as an assload of other labels. The Stroh brand is just one of several owned by the Pabst "Brewing" Company, but PBC doesn't brew any of its own beers - all production is contracted to Miller. If there are differences between the various Pabst-owned brands, they are generally very very small.

You ever look at a map of Canada? That statement might just be true. lol

Best regards, Bill

I was kind of partial to the Hamm's Draft that was available back then. Maybe it was because of those keg shaped cans. ;^)

Best regards, Bill

IIRC

which means that instead of it being heated up to pasturize it the beer is instead sent through a series (?) of filters that filter out most harmful bacteria.

"Most harmful bacteria" - ???? What the hell is that? British cask- conditioned ales are neither pasteurized nor cold-filtered. Wanna tell us all about the "most harmful bacteria" in those? Or how about the "most harmful bacteria" in bottle-conditioned beers?

Cold filtering, like its evil twin pasteurization, have a primary purpose with beer, but it isn't to "filter out most harmful bacteria." It's to take particulates and leftover yeast out of the beer, leaving behind a relatively clear product with greater stability and, perhaps, shelf life. But at least cold filtering doesn't subject beer to the nasty heat-induced breakdown of flavors that pasteurization does.

Neither process is particularly good for beer, from the POV of the drinker.

D, what on earth do you like about Baltika 9? I've had it a few times (too much), and to me, it tastes like the shoddiest malt liquor one can imagine. Ugh. Joris

So, in context, I was saying, "A comparison to Baltika 9 doesn't say much." And it doesn't, because, as is so often the case, we agree: Baltika 9 is crap. Comparing another beer to it suggests that the other beer is also crap. But this is the USA, and for some, if it's an import, well then by golly, it just *has* to be good, even if it's crap.

HTH. HAND.