Caffeine weight

I just realized I have to guess at the amount of caffeine in a gram of tea. If there is an answer I don't know it. I think it would be a constant across the oxidation styles so the caffeine in a gram of Silver Needle would be in the ballpark of puerh making the caffeine in a cup a matter of brewing times and not leaf weight. This all started when my wife read that coffee has 200mg of caffeine in three cups of coffee which I assumed were 6oz each. I was drinking a mug of oolong at the time and I could approximate the gram weight to make the the tea but no clue to the caffeine level. My guess is 20mg of caffeine per gram of tea. I derived that from the fact I would make a 6oz cup with

2 grams of tea for a total of 6 grams for the three cups or 120ml caffeine which would be about half the given amount of coffee. What numbers have you seen for caffeine weight versus tea weight?

Jim

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Space Cowboy
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Hi Jim,

I d "Caffeine is difficult to measure. Coffee tends to contain the most, followed by teas and soft drinks. But there are so many varieties, sizes and strengths of coffee that you can no longer make simple statements about how much is in your favorite cup of joe."

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Resa

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Serendip

That's the article my wife read to me this morning. We have a division of labor on Sunday. I make the tea and breakfast and she reads me anything she finds interesting in the paper. I have to scrounge through the paper on Monday to learn the Saturday sports results. So

30mg/g of caffeine would almost equal the 200mg of tea over three cups of tea. That's almost 3% of caffeine by weight. I've drawn a blank on any caffeine number for tea.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

The Upton website says this:

You can find this, and more, at their site

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then click on "information", and 3/4 of the way down that page, on "caffeine and other health issues".

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RJP

I know that you have often stated how URLs are trespassing here,and that you never follow them, but I offer you a link anyway since it contains a very specific answer to your question.

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It ranges from 1.7% to 4.0% depending on tea variety.

Mike

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Mike Petro

Teasites that list caffeine content are the sames ones who claim their most expensive oolong makes hundreds of cups an oz. All you need for this group is a newserver and reader or if you have cheap MSN as an ISP Google Groups. If you want to know something about tea just ask the group and usually somebody can give you an answer without URLs. I did some homework and Nigel at Teacraft did a post back in 2000

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which is more informative than websites simply repeating each other. You could Google all day and not find the kind of information on recent posts about TGY and LS. I'm the only one recently to ask a question about a Cantonese packaged puerh in a bamboo basket and not receive an answer. Too bad because it doesn't taste like a green or black but something I like better. I suspect it is a rare black LiuAn at $6/500g but won't know till an expensive black LiuAn arrives from China from a contact through my local tea shoppe. If they're the same I'll panhandle on Ebay all I can find in my Chinatown and finally retire.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

Mike,

Jim's got a point in there somewhere. Nigel, if I recall correctly, emphasized that the data you get from one set of leaves does not necessarily carry over to others. Instead, he offers a set of guidelines that include such facts as the leaves closest to the tip of the stem -- the buds, for example -- contain more caffeine than the older leaves further away from the stem tip. I look askance at the Holy Mountain caffeine data.

Michael

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Michael Plant

HI Jim,

Tea has on average a caffeine contend of 2-4,average 3%(dry weight). Best Kalle

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KALLE GRIEGER

I think 3% is a good representative number if you throw out the highs and lows mentioned in posts and websites so that is 30milligram/gram.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

Oh now I get it. The bamboo leaf that wraps the puer adds it own scent as the leaf dries out. I haven't done a core bore yet to see how far the scent permeates as I've been using leaf from the surface. Still the leaf infuses to a dark green unlike cooked and uncooked puers. There are still things you can discover about tea without reading about it first. I got a heads up when I read that puer packed in Pomelo is the same idea.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

Just a minor point here: I doubt it's the leaf that's used in the basket; more likely split stems.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Note first of all that the caffeine level depends somewhat on how you make the tea; although the caffeine is very soluble and most of it comes out in the first minute of steeping, there's still a diifference with different steeping methods and times. So if a company actually took their teas and titrated them, then gave a caffeine specification in the catalogue, that specification may not actually relate to a cup you make.

Also note that some teas contain xanthines that are similar but not identical to caffeine. So, knowing a precise caffeine level may not translate to knowing the degree of biological effect because it's not just caffeine doing the job in all cases.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

I'm not sure what you mean. The leaf is about 1 3/4 inches wide with the point and vein in the middle. Each leaf is probably 8 inches in length probably with a total of ten leaves completely wrapping the puerh. It'll be a while before I make it to the Botanical Gardens to double check.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

Am I reading Nigels post wrong? It looks like he's saying that seedling tea has 1%-3% caffeine and clonal tea 3%-5%, then says most greens are from seedling and most blacks clonal so black tea has less caffeine.

Blues

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Blues Lyne

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I would say the majority are 2.5-3.5%, or 50-70mg per 2g bag and 75-105g per 3g bag.

A 3g bag is labelled for two cups. Does that mean 12 or 16oz?

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Eric Gisin

Interesting list. Why do people say that black tea has more caffeine than green. From the looks of this list that doesn't seem to be true.

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Steve J. Bryan

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