Tea plant varietals

I recently spoke with a Taiwanese tea merchant. Although hard to understand, he made several interesting comments. One is that you have to distinguish between the green, oolong, and black tea "process" and the green, oolong, and black tea "tree." Most Taiwanese tea, he told me, comes from the "green process" of an "oolong tree." I assume he means that their tea is relatively unoxidized and comes from a varietal of Camellia sinensis typically used to make oolong tea.

Does that make sense? Or is it more likely that he's referring to altitude or ecological factors?

Another question: he brews pu-erh in a large glass kettle, removing the leaves every three days but adding them more often, and boiling the concotion before each serving. Is this normal? Is it safe?

Tom

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Yes, although I don't think he meant that the process mainly used in Taiwan with oolong varietals is exactly the same as what's used to manufacture green tea. Rather, I think he meant that they typically apply high heat to stop the enzymatic oxidation of the leaf before the oxidation exceeds 25% or so.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Some people do that, but leaving tea wet for that long, unless you spread it out to dry (and why would you do that), encourages the growth of bacteria and fungus. It's not unsafe, but why would you want to do it?

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Mydnight

It does make sense. BUT, it's true that altitude and ecological conditions also affect the tea... and tea from one place and one plant may make an excellent black tea but a terrible green tea.

It doesn't sound normal to me, but I would expect the boiling is going to kill the fungus and mold that will naturally grow there. May not do anything about the fungus and mold toxins produced, of course. It does not sound like a way to make good-tasting tea, but then again I don't much like pu-ehr anyway.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Sorry, guys; I fell asleep. WHO said this? Was it crymad, that almost Japanese fellow?

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Michael Plant

No, it was me. Actually, I was being kind. I really can't stand the stuff.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Sorry, but are you sure of that? Pu'er covers a *very* wide range of flavors and aromas. I'd hate to think you wrote it all off after trying just a few.

How would you characterize what you hate about Pu'er?

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

I compare the taste of black puer to other old growth or wild teas like ShuiHsien or DaHongPao. It's something you won't initially like but you get use to the taste.

Jim

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Space Cowboy

I've tried a few Pu-ehr types, none of the really high grade ones, but everything from the cheap Sprouting brand tuochas and mini tuochas on up to some mid-grade cooked ones.

None of them had a taste that I liked. None of them just made me smile when I drank it, the way yunnan congou always does. I don't see any reason to drink something like that, when there are plenty of things that do make me smile.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

Hmm, this makes me somewhat nostalgic ... not a good thing ...?

My first taste of 'really basic not green, not old' puer ... bliss.

Last year in Kunming looking for any trace of a really great yunnan red ...

...just not to be had.

But as Nietszche one said, 'memory yields' ... I wait

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teaismud

I will second Scott's reaction to pu'er. At it's worst, it reminds me of mucking out horse stalls. At its best, it reminds me of drinking dirty water.

But I also don't like Russian Caravan blends, and I'm beginning to think that the distate for both is related - it's the aroma that turns me off moreso than the taste. But since taste and aroma are intimately connected....

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Derek

If the truth be known, I *like* the soft earthy loam of a good shu Pue'rh, even one without age. It's the taste and smell of forest and peat that amuses and delights me. Shu was my first Poo. I haven't lost my initial fondness for it.

I get fruit and flower and caramel and charcoal and such like from SH and DHP. I don't get that Shu earthiness, and thus I can't quite equate these teas. Perhaps more apropos would be comparison of Shu Pu'erh to other non-Pu'erh black teas (using the Chinese idea of "black tea" here).

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Michael Plant

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