How to cancel CAMRA subscription ?

Mind you, it is full of "real ale on the up" and "brewery x records 20% sales increase" when on the ground we see lots of pubs closing, and lots of others going over to keg :-(

I'm afraid I now put it to one side and just skim through it if bored. It looks too dated and the content is not particularly inspiring any more.

John B

I wonder if that is more to do with you than the paper :-)

Shurely you're not implying that John is dated and uninspiring? :P

Quite possibly. It just hasn't moved forward and - IMO - has the image of something stuck in the past. It can hardly be described as being an action packed punchy rivetting read.

John B

LOL

John B

Subscribe to any magazine and after a while you start to see the same things being rehashed because there is a limit to the scope of any subject. That doesn't mean that there isn't any new and interesting material , but a lot of items will always be going over old ground.

To that extent you are right, but in those cases the skills are in making it look and read as new and exciting. To be fair, I don't think WB does re-hash that much so the issue is more how new material is presented.

Successful publications are those that encourage new readers to pick them up with anticipation or to hover over the letter box each month.

WB does not 'buzz' - and I'm interested in the subject - so I do question its attraction to others who are not so passionate about real ale.

However, as WB is not a subscription magazine/paper but a membership 'benefit' perhaps the case for change is not so pressing as in other areas ;-)

John B

Given that there is only so much write about beer and pubs, I think this is just a reflection that your tastes have changed and you need to move on. Try Country Life, Kerrang! or some other publication that is going to be new and fresh to you.

Eh? Beer and pubs are a wonderfully diverse and exciting subject. Almost limitless in potential. Being at the heart of many communities and such a central point to so many activities, as well as having such a magnificent tradition, I am surprised you say that. Tastes, atmospheres, people, life, communication, history, ..... Now what was it Belloc said?

To think that is arrogant Brett :-( I never put you down as someone who believed in standing still.

Why, when I am passionate about pubs and real ale.

John B

You are right, sorry. I should have replaced "I think" with "Perhaps".

Well it was just an alternative explanation of why WB has become dated and uninspiring to you. Something I disagree with by the way. I've also never heard anyone express a similar view to yours by one of our branch either. Doesn't prove anything either way of course. Perhaps you could write a few articles in a new and vibrant style for WB?

Brett

Out of interest, what sort of things would you like to see in WB, then?

To my mind, it is already often too "popular" in style and lacking in serious analysis. And I would put you down as a Guardian rather than a Mirror reader.

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I've heard the same complaints about the magazine from members of every voluntary org I belong to. And the same points made about the complaints.

One thing you can be sure of: every so often they'll change the format, and when they do, they'll get a barrage of complaints about the new format.

Not going to use pubs in future as I am uneasy using a smartphone app to order drinks

Err find a different pub. The pub I have gone back to doesn't use an app to order drinks (although you cannot currently go to the bar and order yourself).