Breakfast tea

I think it's a mistake to talk about taste as if it were something objective out there in the world. It's something that happens *to you*, really. So to say tea is good and coffee is bad becomes suspect. It's not just tea vs. coffee, too: there's a vast range of tastes within the realm of tea and I doubt anyone likes them all.

I do think that there's something "objective" out there, though. And regarding coffee vs. tea, I think that appreciating tea uses parts of your sensory apparatus that are very different from those used in enjoying coffee. I wouldn't say one enjoyment is *incompatible* with the other but it takes a kind of mental gymnastics to shift from one to the other. Perhaps it's like enjoying spicy food vs. enjoying subtle, verging-on-bland food (not that there's no subtlety in spicy food!)

Please note: I'm not saying all tastes in the world are equal. I assume that as humans there's a similarity in the way our minds - our brains? - work such that some combinations of flavor and aroma offer us more of a chance to develop a satisfying experience than other combinations. (Exactly how this happens is a really interesting question but not one I can answer.) But when you see that lots of people you respect enjoy coffee you have to concede that the opaque brown stuff has some standing in the world.

Disclosure: I used to be a coffee lover and heavy coffee drinker. These days I desire coffee maybe once a month and try to drink it only when there's reason to think it'll be a really good cup. With all that, I'm usually (but not always) disappointed.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin
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Let me rephrase. To me, I like the taste of most tea that I've tried, not all but most. Coffee, on the other hand, tastes vile to me. To me, tea is good and coffee is vile. You may have different tastes and that's just fine with me. Emperically objective. :)

That was easily surmised in your defense of what to me is a vile drink that is well beyond my imagination as to why anyone would drink it but if you find it palatable by all means enjoy it.

J
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John

Alberta Clipper from Teatraders.com

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Taffy Stoker

Earl grey.....hot

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Taffy Stoker

I'm going to admit heresy: I only drink coffee in the morning! Don't know why, but tea just doesn't do it for me when I haven't been out of bed very long. But, be assured, the rest of the day it's tea all the way! If I did drink it for breakfast, it'd have to be something strong, maybe with some Assam in it, such as a Scottish Breakfast, or maybe a nice Yunnan, with a little sugar but no milk.

Paul

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PSCHLOTTHAUER

Paul:

Nothing wrong to have coffee. But tes is more healthy drink. Actually I used to have coffee in the morning, a cup of strong coffee. But I have solved this problem with one of my own version of tea blend( very strong blend with a exotic flavour). if you are interested let me know, I will love to share my blend with you. By the way, I know many serious tea lovers who still love to have a cup of coffee in the morning.

I am also a keemun and Yunnan lover. What kinds of Yunnan do you like? Thanks.

Ripon (from Bangladesh)

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Ripon

Paul:

I do love Scottish Breakfast tea, and I also concur that is strong enough for a breakfast brew (in fact, I won't drink it after 7 in the evening or so, as I would have trouble sleeping if I did). Any of the "Breakfast" varieties seem to be fine for me in the morn, including classical English as well as Irish Breakfast. Add a selection of good heated scones with some Lemon Curd, or Pumpkin Butter, or even Honey Spread, and Heaven becomes quite an accessible concept.

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Pete Knox

On my way to work, I like Tibetan butter tea lately (i use a very inexpensive pu-erh from tenren else lipton tea bags) I save the lighter teas for when I get to work.

I haven't entirely switched to coffee, as this was never my intent. I just drink what I like when the mood strikes me, for me that means tea multiple times a day and coffee sometimes once or twice.

-ben

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Ben Snyder

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What would you folks out there recommend for those of us who share this problem? I mean, what good teas are there if one wants to avoid losing sleep due to late tea drinking?

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Ole Kvaal

Since I first tried it can't say that I've even considered anything else. I'm totally addicted to Mount Everest Breakfast Blend . A combination of Yunnan and Assam, makes it worthwhile getting out of bed in the morning.

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Anonymous

I depend on rooibos in the evenings.

Karen

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Karen

Ole:

You have many options. You can straight go for decaffeinated teas. You can have decaffeinated Japanese Sencha, Darjeeling, Earl Grey and even decf. strong Assam and Ceylon or you can decaffeinate you own tea by yourself. Put your loose tea leaves in a strainer,pour hot water through your loose tea leaves for 20-30 seconds then brew your tea again with hot water. but this way-there is a possibility to loose some taste because we are human being not a robot. So sometimes this manual way- self-process might take out some taste of your good loose tea. Another problem of this process is- you might not re-infuse your good tea leaves for second time. Herney & Sons has a good selection of decaffeinated teas-

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By the way- last time you mentioned UK is your best option to buy good loose tea. You are from Norway so why don't you try this German on-line vendor Venalicia. They have a wide varieties of good loose tea-

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Thanks.

Ripon (from Bangladesh)

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Ripon

If you are addicted to Mount Everest Breakfast blend ( I also love this combination of Assam and Yunnan)then you will also like-

Herney & Sons:- Supreme Breakfast (Keemun Hao Ya B and tippy Assam)

Tea Trader's:-Albert Clipper(Assam/Yunnan and a little touch of Darjeeling)

Ripon (From Bangladesh)

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Ripon

Eh, well, it wasn't me who mentioned UK, but if Venalica is a good place for online tea, I'll give it a try, and thank you for your reply and suggestion.

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Ole Kvaal

BTW, it appears that the web address is

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Ole Kvaal

I'm always interested in new tea blends so if you're willing to post yours I'm sure a lot of readers will be interested.

As for Yunnans, I usually buy from Grace, and have occasionally used Mark Wendell. Right now I also have a wonderful Yunnan-Darjeeling blend from Upton, although the Darjeeling, surprisingly, dominates (you'd think it'd be the reverse). As for Keemuns, I just discovered Upton's Hubel Province Keemun Ji Hong, which I think is really outstanding--richer and more full-bodied than any others I can remember. It goes with anything: a meal, dessert, or just by itself.

Paul

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PSCHLOTTHAUER

For what it's worth, I gleefully drink Japanese green tea well into the late evening, without concern for it keeping me up. And this isn't because I've become hardened to the effects of caffeine: As I've mentioned here in the past, the occasional cup of Darjeeling I enjoy still hits me with a buzz.

--crymad

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crymad

Ups, so many on-line vendors,sometimes diffucult to remember. I am sorry.

Ripon (From Bangladesh)

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Ripon

Really,then I am with you LOL.

Thank you very much for your Keemun Ji hong tips. Actually I have been always stick with Keemun Mao Feng,Hao Ya A & B, Twining's "Prince of Wales" and China Keemun grade#1132. Last two, I always use as blend tea. Once in a while I even use Mao Feng as a blend tea. That one I drink for very special occasion or mood.

Once I got the chance to spend some time with this great man, who is a tea taster last 42 years. Before talking about my strong blend, I would like to share some basic for tea blending tips. As a blender(I am amture not professional)- first of all you need to know the unique taste of a certain tea. Example- Assam or Bangladeshi Orthodox or CTC has full body, maultiness. Darjeeling has flowery flavor even sometimes a hints of almonds. Keemun might have spicy note and also often rich, fruity even some Keemun have a Smokey flavor. Yunnan has earthy, peppery, nutty, subtle flavor. Yunnan can be also full body but not as Assam or Bangladeshi tea. Lapsang Souchong has strong Smokey flavor(It's depend on your taste and how much you can handle with a blend).

Famous English Breakfast Tea- can be entirely Keemun, Can be entirely Ceylon OP or combination of keemun and Ceylon. So you see, in a blend you can always try different kinds of tea. All you need to make sure- one single tea shouldn't entirely dominate the other. Then it is not a proper blend(This is for commercial blenders) but again it's up to you. It's your tea so you are in control. But I try to make my blend with round flavor with different tea taste.(I mean try my best to keep all the flavors, though sometimes it is very difficult).

My breakfast blend:-

I haven't given any name LOL but as a Coffee drinker in the morning had needed something strong. The combination I use are-(For a Coffee mug)

1)A full tea spoon of Bangladeshi CTC 2)half tea spoon of Keemun 3)half tea spoon of Darjeeling(I prefer 1st flush, lighter then 2nd flush) 4)half tea spoon of lapsang Souchong ( I like strong LP so I use LP Black Dragon kind, so you can decide your LP level.)

Then brew for 3 minutes. Add milk and sugar or sometimes condensed milk. If you don't have Bangladeshi tea, you might try with Assam but then you better use 1/3 of a teas spoon of Assam. Here we have Full body and medium body Bangladeshi tea. For this blend I use medium body. That's it. If this blend does not wake you up, nothing will. LOL.

Enjoy and please don't forget to tell us about your experience, even if you don't like it. Thanks.

Ripon (From Bangladesh)

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Ripon

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