Toughest tea to brew

Any one had any toughest experience in brewing tea?

I would have to say Bi Luo Chun green tea. I tasted the same tea in the store brew with the seller and it tasted really good, with mild nutty flavor and lingering sweet undertones. Back at home i tried brewing it various methods here and there I couldn't get the best out of it. Sometimes it taste really stale, i tried with more leaves, shorter brewing time, hotter water, etc but I still couldn't get like how it should taste at the store. This is one particular incident with BLC green tea. Other version of BLCs i had bought did not have this issue.

I heard that preparing gong fu cha is really a skill! Other kind of tough to brew tea is wu yi rock tea especially some Da Hong Pao.

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Jazzy
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Are you *sure* it's the same tea the shop brewed for you?

Have you tried it with cooler water? With BLC, I often find 140F, or even cooler, is best.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Hey Lew,

Yes it was indeed the same tea from the shop. it's really tough sometimes i could get a great cup out of it. sometimes it just doesn't i remembered this tea very well because it was the toughest tea i ever brewed!

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Jazzy

Jazzy!

It is the same experience here! That bloody BLC!

I had one from a Dongting West Mountain tea garden. I can't get it to brew properly.

I paid seriously top top bucks for it.

It has all the signs of an authentic tea.strong fruity aroma that you will never find anywhere else, very tiny leaves that is so distinctive of BLC and durability.

But can't brew it right.

I will try again. At different concentration and temperature. Will let you know.

Julian

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juliantai

with the BLC i only got to an awesome flavor 1 time, needed some tea on the go, so i put some leaf in a .5L bottle room temp water when i came back (hour/hours?) the fruity/apricot flavor surprised me, it was so tasty! but i havent been able to replicate the exact experience.

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SN

looks like BLC is really a tough tea to brew!

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Jazzy

I'm struggling with Dan Cong.

Phyll

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Phyll

I've been meaning to mention that I've had an interesting ride with the BLC I bought in Vancouver from Spring Cottage in late July. Wanting to use it while it kept some freshness, I've been brewing it most mornings. As I expected, the full, blooming, melony glory lasted only the first week. But as the leaves lost freshness, something unexpected and, to my taste, delightful crept in, starting with the second steep: a kind of cooling spice note, somewhere in the realm of cardamom, for want of a really close comparison.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Phyll,

Dan Cong? Why? How do you ussually brew it? I would use water around slightly before boiling degree, I admit that it can get nasty with dan cong, certain breed can go bitter if overbrewed as well as depending on your brewing techniques you might get more infusions or lesser infusions.

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Jazzy

[Michael] Lew, it could be the water. Bi Lo Chun is delicate enough to be quite water sensitive in my experience and might account for the difference. It *is* a tricky tea, again in my opinion.
[Michael] Truer words, never spoken. Also, BLC is delicate to the point of losing so much of its loveliness so very quickly, I think. Perhaps it did get stale.
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Michael Plant

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It goes bitter when pushed too far, right? But, for me bitter is not bad. Anyway, I fill my gaiwan or gungfu pot chockablock with Dan Song and then, using water just off the boil, I do instantaneous steeps for the first several and then add seconds slowly from then on. It works for me. BLC I've ruined, DC seldom.

DC is a good example in my opinion of tea which provides, as Lew mentioned in another context, different pleasures brewed in different ways. Although I never bring the water temperature down, I do increase and decrease the amount of leaf and the length of steep occasionally to vary the taste and style: Generally, pushed harder, I get more bitterness and more finish. But, pushed like that, there can be a harshness up front.

Just my random thoughts.

Michael

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Michael Plant

I'm with Lew on this one. If you use water that's too hot, it will sear the leaves and any flavor out of the tea resulting in some oddly flavored water. Also be careful about what kind of water you use. Try to use some kind of mineral water.

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Mydnight

Ah, the water. I find myself daunted by thinking about The influence of different waters on brewing various teas. There are too many variables already in trying to get a good cup out of the leaves! And with my very limited experience comparing waters, I'm not at all sure that this is an issue only for delicate teas.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Actually that´s the main historic reason for Eastfriesian blends to contain such high amounts of Assam, usually > 90%. No other tea that made it over here back in the old days benefitted so much from the extremely soft, slightly acidic water they have here. From my experience an average Assam can handle quite a broad span of water hardness resulting in some interesting changes of flavour and colour of the brew. However, most Frieseans seem to like their tea water soft, so some folks took to collecting rain water while other folks I know over here don´t travel without some canisters of local water in their cars. On the other hand I have to use bottled water [Volvic] or add some minerals for my Darjeelings, using water straight from the tap results in a flat and downright boring brew.

BTW: having been born and raised in a city with miserably hard water that is totally unsuitable for any sort of tea [but somehow great for coffee] this leaves me speculating on what effects a worldwide improvement in the quality of tap water would have on the popularity of tea.

Karsten [some Highgrown Sri Lanka leaves in tazza]

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psyflake

But rainwater would have essentially no minerals at all. So there is a tea, after all, suited to demineralized or distilled water? Amazing.

Could you please expand on this fascinating hint? I've often thought it should be cheap and environmentally responsible to try to emulate good mineral waters by adding the right salts to tap water.

Maybe it isn't that simple. What would be an improvement in water for one tea might harm another tea.

It's a Biluochun morning here.

/Lew

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Lewis Perin

Yeah - be a heck of a lot more convenient than schlepping water home from the market. I've tried a few saltoid addenda, including sea salt, garden lime, crushed dolomite and alum, but none worked very well. When the need seems to arise, I just add a small splash of bottled mineral water - full strength is far too much.

A critical option is brew vs. spike: add minerals to the brewing water, or to the brewed infusion off the leaf. They both work, and I usually can't tell the difference. (Of course, I can't tell tea from coffee without a look at the label, but that's another story.) This casts some doubt on the extraction-variables case - though whether or not ions matter much in brewing (as distinct from effects on the tongue, or in binding solutes in various ways), I remain convinced that extraction is indeed affected strongly by small changes in pH.

-DM

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DogMa

Danica has some stuff that's designed for re-mineralizing filtered or distilled water... it seems to work Ok. You just put a few drops in the water before heating it.

w
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Will Yardley

Ask a local homebrew shop for "Burton's Water Salts." This is a mineral mix that is intended to duplicate the mineral water composition at a particular site in the UK. When added to distilled water it gives you a nice soft mineral water.

This makes sense, but I suspect it's more than just pH too.

--scott

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Scott Dorsey

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