Its that time again: hunting the bargain quaffers.


Hello,
I'm on my regular expedition for some budget quaffers. I should point out all prices in Australian dollars, and I think they only deliver Australia wide. Not sure about international.
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usually aren't that spectacular, sometimes they have some pretty good stuff for the price.
I have my eye on a few little bargains [its buy one get one free on these]:
Five mile creek cab/merlot
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King Valley Cab Sauv 2003 Cleanskin
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Koala Blue Shiraz 2002
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Margaret River Cabernet Shiraz Merlot 2002 - Cleanskin
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Margaret River Shiraz Cleanskin 2002
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Any ideas? Most of them work out at about $5-6AU per bottle when you buy one get one free. $120 for 2 cases you can always palm off is pretty good going I think. But if it is complete muck I'm not sure there is any point.
Thanks for any comments or opinions anyone may have.
Mat.
P.S.: I should probably make this a new thread, but has anyone noticed the boom in cleanskin and liquidation etc dealers? There never used to be any adds, now you can't put on the TV or open the paper without adds for this sort of thing.
I suspect it is having the effect of driving prices down even further [why go to a shop and pay $20 for an unknown wine when u can buy a case you've tasted for ~$5 a bottle, free delivery?].
I wonder if it will eventually have the effect of driving some producers out? At the moment it seems Oz wine is booming and booming, but there is only so low particuarly little producers can go on price until they stop making a profit.
Under $5AU a bottle is cutting it pretty fine I would have thought. Particuarly given the reported steep drop in prices for most non-premium wines generally.
Perhaps the glut of wine we keep hearing about will dry up eventually, and prices will go back up.
Reply to
Mat

on 3/22/05 8:03 PM:
If I'm understanding your post, Mat, many of these wines are in 'non-labeled' bottles..... at least I'm presuming that 'cleanskin' describes that (and from the pictures of un-labeled bottles at the site I checked as well). That's something I've never come across here in the States, and I'm assuming that's because it isn't legal here. I guess the point of my post is to find out how the Aussie law is different... why... and also to see if there is, in fact, any similar availability in the US, though I doubt it.
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Midlife

Hello Midlife,
You are understanding my post. They come in plain bottles with a simple stick on label usually stating alcohol content, region [never vineyard], standard drinks, retailer and that's usually pretty much it.
We sell many many thousands of cases of them. They are a boom industry at the moment. Shops / online retailers popping up everywhere.
It is a bit of an old chestnut. Why do wineries do it? Sometimes they are surplus stock. Sometimes they are poor vintages they do not want to be associated with. Sometimes they want to cut out the costs of labelling and marketting. Sometimes they were earmarked for something else, so need to be sold quick smart as the deal fell through.
So it can be the case you get a much superior wine at a bargain price. It can be the case that you get complete muck, but do not pay too much for it. I think that is where trusting your retailer comes in. Most places will let you taste it before you buy, so you know what you're getting in advance.
Everyone I know who had ever bought cleanskins from one of the better retailers [well any retailer] has always been happy with them. I'm a bit suspicious on the Safeway cleanskins however. Every single store seems to have about 200 cases, multiply that by about 150 stores in Victoria alone.
The bad thing is that if it is a 100% wine to you personally, you can usually never find it again, they run out etc.
I can't see why the US would not take this on board. Its a win-win for producer-consumer. You cut out the cost of labelling, marketting etc bringing down the price greatly.
I am very surprised that given the success of this in Australia various entities in the US industry are not screaming for it.
I'm sure some other US ppl will be able to fill us in more.
Mat.
Reply to
Mat

Randall's is supposedly one of the better cleanskin retailers.
Check out randalls.com.au then go to "cleanskin clearance". It is a blue blob at the top of the main frame / page.
From that page:
A CLEANSKIN IS AWINE SOLD WITHOUT A PRINTED PROPRIETARY LABEL AT REDUCED COSTS. WINE MAKERS SELL CLEANSKINS FOR SEVERAL REASONS:
* To offload excess stocks at a cheaper price without damaging their "goodwill" public image or relationships with distributors and/or other retailers. * To offload parcels that are too small to go through the label design and printing/packaging process. * To sell wines that are not up to the winemakers price/quality standard eg. A wine may not be good enough for a $20 label but may be a great value cleanskin for $9. * To sell of cancelled export/contract orders: or excess parts thereof. * To make quick "cash" sales to help cash flow.
Mat.
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Mat

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I'm sure a big part of it is US labelling laws. But instead of clearskins, we have 2 buck chuck. Pretty much the same concept. Buy up excess (for whatever reason) wine and bottle it under a standard label that has been previously approved by the powers that be.
Andy
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JEP62

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