My fellow Americans

Got the names of some of those "bought out" breweries? I've been studying the US brewing industry for decades and this is the first I heard of this, as I asked "Phil" in the part of this thread copied below.

As noted, they DID buy the American Brewing Company of Miami, Fl. in

Just a guess, but I don't think the added capacity and market share of the "American Brewing Co., MIami, FL" is really the reason A-B's market share went from 2-3% at Repeal to today's near 50%.

snipped-for-privacy@LYC0S.com wrote: > Phil wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:40:28 -0700, yedyegiss >> wrote: >>

No tot mention Budweiser sounds so very unamerican as... well I think yanks just wish they were European.

Phil wrote:

Any modestly educated homebrewer or beer aficionado should know why the big North American brewers brew the way they do. I suggest those who claim it has to do with cost simply isn't very educated.

Brewing history in the US is a fascinating topic. I attended a talk awhile back about the history of brewing in St. Louis, dating back more the 150 years, and anyone who believes AB simply "created a flavor profile" and foisted it on the public using bullying tactics is simply ignorant.

Sheesh. English grammar can sometimes be a bear, but that definition certainly weakens your point. Read it a few more times, paying specific attention to conjunctions.

This is why you suck so badly at this. If you make an assertion, the onus is on you to prove your assertion. You've already been given plenty of data to the contrary of your assertion, but insist on playing your infantile little game of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "la-la-la, can't hear you, I'm right and you're not!"

Until then, you continue to suck at this, and now that you've been backed into a corner, your downward spiral is only getting steeper.

"Until then, you can blow me." - Phil, being all grown up

snipped-for-privacy@see.headers (Joel) wrote in news:g3o7hp$fhj$1 @badger.ncsa.uiuc.edu:

American six row barley does not produce enough starch to convert to sugars and an alternative to use British 2 row was sought. AB chose to rice which boosted the starch levels and added a "cripsness" they now claim is "drinkability".

snipped-for-privacy@see.headers (Joel) wrote in news:g3o7ri$fi7$ snipped-for-privacy@badger.ncsa.uiuc.edu:

No, you are simply well endoctrinated.

How so? Be exact. Name names, and describe the market in the late 1800's and early 1900s, and the impact of Prohibition on the market.

The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

I'd expect that the Native Americans worked out their own brew - perhaps that could be called a real American beer?

Bry>

I'm relatively postive that The United States does not have the market cornered on stupidity. Having traveled to about 12 other countries, I have found that particular trait and many other not so desirable character attributes to be quite widespread amongst all countries and cultures......

Answer: Because it disturbs the natural flow of the conversation Question: Why is top-posting frowned upon in newsgroups....?

Ever heard about the expression "self-fulfilling prophecy"? So, if there's something you don't understand, you call it stupidity of the other...

What you just wrote makes no sense whatsoever....how does self fulfilling prophecy and widespread stupidity have anything to do with each other within the point I made? If you're saying stupidity begats stupidity, well, I'm not sure I can disagree with that one, however.....I was stating that simply because you have met several stupid Americans....since I live here and I work in customer service, I'm positive I've met dozens more than you, that doesn't mean the people here are any more capable of inane and assinine acts than those in Europe and Asia....

I understand it...apparently you do not...thus, here's the definition.

A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true. Although examples of such prophecies can be found in literature as far back as ancient Greece and ancient India, it is

" The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come 'true'. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning.[1] "

In other words, a prophecy declared as truth when it is actually false may sufficiently influence people, either through fear or logical confusion, so that their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.

It looks like everyone should read this, it's a good perspective from both companies, Czech Budvar and AB

at least we can stop arguing who knows more about what, when this says it all..

Cheers...

On 7/12/2008 8:23 PM snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com ignored two million years of human evolution to write:

It's poorly written, sloppy, and plays fast and loose with facts. Here's an example.

"The (then Czechoslovak) company named Budejovicky Budvar was founded in the town of Ceske Budejovice in 1895. The beer, however has been brewed in Budejovice ever since the 14th century."

This is unmitigated bullshit. The style of beer brewed by Budejovicky Budvar, a pale lager, was developed in the 1840s. While C. Budejovice has been a brewing town since the 14th century, Budvar-Budweiser most certainly hasn't been brewing since then. Muddying the waters like this is pointless. Also, there was no such thing as a "then Czechoslovak" company or anything else in 1895, as those lands were part of the Austro-Hungarian empire. Czechoslovakia didn't exist until after World War I.

There's another brewery in town, Budejovicky mestansky pivovar a.s., that *also* markets a beer called "Budweiser Bürgerbräu," too, and this isn't even mentioned, mostly because the brewer hasn't pressed the issue so much with A-B, and sells its beer under names like "Crystal" and "Samson" in the USA.