While I suspect the OP can't handle anything more flavorful than Bud.
Guinness - at least the standard version that's on draught throughout the
States, and in the nitro cans - is far from a perfect beer. Unless by
"perfect" you mean "overrated."
I can think of dozens of stouts I'd rather drink before Guinness.
It was all over southern Oregon until I left. half liter bottles and on
tap. Have to look in the collection. OK, made in Fort Bragg California.
8.9%. kept a millennium bottle. northcoast brewing is listed as the
To me, it is what a stout otta be. stout.
Bell's Expedition Stout
Coopers Best Extra
Sammy Smith Oatmeal
Sammy Smith Imperial
Old Rasputin Russian Imperial
.........just a few that are a hell of a lot better, but Guinness isn't all
that bad.......just lacks complexity unlike Expedition.....mmmmmm
Probably not going to find it in too many bars (although I've seen it at a
couple places here in southern California). It's brewed by North Coast, so
anywhere they distribute you should be able to find it. And they distribute
in a lot of states.
"RadioResearch .com>" I've had Guinness in Ireland, and it tastes 100% better than the stuff
It's the exact same beer. Same recipe, same brewery.
Different recipes and different breweries for England and some parts of the
Continent. English Guinness sucks.
It could have tasted better over there because it was fresher, although
Guinness move enough product in the States now to make it worth their while
to get stuff over here in pretty good shape. And people are often
susceptible to attaching the taste of something to the fond memories of
consuming it in a foreign land in an exotic setting, making it seem to taste
"better." Certainly a likely suspect regarding Irish Guinness being
"better," since it's the exact same beer.
Possible. Guinness have several breweries throughout the world, and they
brew different recipes in various regions. I used to think that they kept
pretty good control over quality, whether it's their own breweries or
contractors. I was proved wrong by the abomination that comes out of Labbat
in Canada with the label Guinness Extra Stout. Used to be a wonderful beer.
Used to be.
Usually there will be label saying where it's brewed and packaged.
You got that right. I'm in the process of converting a macro beer drinker to
a micro beer drinker.
He's had draught Guinness before and I was impressed because he wasn't
impressed with it.
I got him some Obsidian(Deschutes) and Zonker(Snake River) and them...he
we had a BBQ at his house the other day and he also got to sample some
Victory Pils & HopDevil, & Deschutes Cascade Ale. It's good to be my friend!
In article ,
Nigerian Guinness Foreign Extra Stout is held by some beergeeks to be a
very GOOD beer. It is apparently available fairly readily in some European
markets to satisfy expat demands. It is brewed with sorghum b/c the
Nigerians apparently require that malt beverages consumed there be made of
Recently discussed on RateBeer--
Guinness Stout...and all of its regional variations (check out this list:
examples of dry stout-but not, collectively, paradigmatic of the style. It
is somewhat unique in its use of a lactic acid process similar to Jack
Daniel's sour mash technique.
Old Rasputin (an Imperial Stout) is wonderful, but it's apples to Guinness'
North Coast does offer a tasty & accessible entry in this style called "Old
No. 38", which is perennially my personal favorite.
The Beverage Tasting Institute has some excellent notes on this style (and
many others) in its web journal, and is generally a very useful reference
Decadent Beer Guy
P.S. It seems to me that, for the most part, beverage quality is inversely
related to the amount of promotion that's invested in it.
"Michael Hoopes" wrote in message
What a load of old horseshit that is. Guinness is inescapably paradigmatic
of the style (check your fooking dictionary, bub), and the "lactic acid
process" has nothing to do with the sour mash "technique" that is employed
by every American whiskey distiller (not just Jack Daniel's).
And there's a fair amount of old horseshit here, too.
Lactic acid ? Guinness is no Berliner Weisse ! Guinness Foreign Extra
Stout is produced by mixing young beer with bee that has been aged and
therefore has a sightly sour edge, but it is the one and only version of
Guinness that's anything near containing lactic acid...
"Disappointed American Light Lager Drinker" wrote in
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No, more like the lactic quality in the rare Wisconsin beer style, Sour
Cream Ale. Although there is some horseshit character in Lieftimmer Vue's
That's the rumor, but the truth is that Guinness refused to pay me the full
amount for this slogan, and so my lawyer has to kill their lawyers. In
spite, I use this phrase as often as I can, just to wave it under their
snotty noses and remind them what a brilliant slogan they passed up on for
Interesting that the BTI would feature style information when
the beer evaluations they do are strictly hedonic and have nothing
to do with stylistic parameters.
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