Sam Adams Cream Stout

Did they stop brewing this? I haven't seen any in a long time.

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J Denole
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Todd Alström
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Todd Alström

I always thought the Honey Porter was their best brew, but I can't find it a round here anymore. I can get the Cream Stout though.

Sam Adams brews were my first experince with non-mass market beer. It was good stuff back then, but most of their brews seem a little bland now.

bluestringer

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bluestringer

sam Adams was my first experience with better beer as well. I was wondering if Sam Adams tastes different to me now because of a change in recipes or if my palate is just more "refined"-Boy am I a beer snob!!

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Mike E.

Glad you put "refined" in quotes. Your palate has most certainly evolved, as all of ours do. More refined? That sort of thinking tends to bring out the anti-snob snob in me.

Personally, I've grown tired of the line of thinking that says "I'm too sophisticated now to appreciate Sam Adams" - or any number of beers that can be substituted for SA and represent many Americans' first experiences with craft beer. Hell, I've seen that said for SNPA, Anchor Steam, even some beers that are far from subtle.

Most of Sam Adams' beers are quite well-done and have never been lacking in quality, from what I've seen. Do I drink Sam Adams often? No, but then again I never really did. That's simply because there's other stuff that appeals to me more for various reasons. But once in a while I like going back to the Boston Lager, because it's a very interesting, well-made beer that still stands largely alone in character. It's a good beer, even if it only appeals to me once or twice a year. I don't drink Rochefort 8 or Weltenburger Asam-Bock every day, either.

I highly doubt that BBC has changed any of the Sam Adams recipes over the years. Usually, doing so is a recipe for commercial catastrophe (see Schlitz, c. 1975). Rather, what once seemed to be a beer bursting with flavor to a palate trained to think that Heineken was something exotic is now the same beer that seems differnt to a palate that's move on to experience bigger and bolder tastes. That doesn't make SABL or the like worse or changed. It's just that perception is different. And I think it's a good thing to go back and revisit the beers that helped ramp up that change in perception and appreciate them for what they are, rather than slag on them as way too many beer geeks do in favor of beers that are as subtle as a

4x4 to the head.

-Steve

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Steve Jackson

It does seem to have been the gateway beer for a lot of beer snobs. Me too. Now I'm a little disappointed if the best a restaurant has to offer is SA.

It's better than Killians, anyway.

Dav Vandenbroucke davanden at cox dot net

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Dav Vandenbroucke

For me, Sierra Nevada and Anchor paved the way and I still think very highly of their products. Actually, the first micro I remember drinking was the long defunct New Albion. Anybody but me recall that one being arouind?

Better than the Redhooks too, imo.

Best regards, Bill

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Bill Becker

Yep. But it was such a long time ago. There was also Cartwright's from Portland, but that stuff died an early (and deserved) death. New Albion actually was drinkable.

Redhook is still more or less a regional craft brewer, and at least its beers are what they say they are. Killians isn't even an ale, and it's a Coors brand.

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dgs

Changes were definitely made in the SA Scotch Ale. Me and my beer-geek friends who were familiar with the brew all noticed a distinct increase in its smokiness at a certain point. And the so-called Cranberry Lambic has definitely been modified over the years.

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Kenji

The holiday 12-packs are now in stores (on the east coast of the US, anyway)... it's got 6 different types in it, including 'Old Fezziwig' and a brand new holiday brew.

Between the new Saranac 12 Beers box and the new Sam Adams holiday box, I'm gonna be able to build a new house with empty boxes before Christmas. :-)

Patrick W. Heinske -- Central NC, USA snipped-for-privacy@aol.NOSPAMcom

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Patrick W. Heinske

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