de Koninck in Antwerp: a new fan

Welcome to the club.

That's one of its main purposes. You call it "elfkroegentocht" in the local vernacular - "eleven pubs' crawl". The Amsterdam is probably not fresh enough - and it's extremely sensitve to badly cared-for pipes.

I can tell you more. De Koninck has just developed a cask-conditioned version. But I would lay off the bottles, if I were you.

Eeuh... that's "een bolleke", or "het bolleke".

Yes - that's what caused my downfall to the pits of beerhell, and it's Antwerpen. Schol, Joris

In message , Joris Pattyn writes

Not at all nice in bottles. Its fairly common draught in bars here but usually pretty poor, worth trying (you might get lucky) but don't expect much. There aren't that many places selling a good one even in Belgium outside of Antwerp.

I was there Saturday night, too, but I only drank one bolleke - agree with you about the beer and the quality though.

I was drinking stronger stuff from bottles :-)

The North Bierfest 04 had it on draught at the weekend; this was part of the Continental market in Leeds. One glass of it on Friday evening was what decided me to go to Antwerp the next day. It was foul. I've never tried the bottled version.

Absolutely - "the" city in Belgium to drink beer, IMO.

I'm surprised no-one in the UK hasn't chipped in yet; it's available in (certain) Wetherspoon outlets ATM: King's Head Monmouth and JWL, Newport at least.

I'm attend the Ship and Mitre in Liverpool where they have De Koninck's Winter Beer on tap. Thats beautiful. As are many of the rest of the beers in that pub.

Now now Joris - I can't imagine you even being in the same country as the "pits of beer hell"!!!!

Cheers

"George Leach" - a made-up name if ever I've heard one - said

Does anyone know if it's true that they're going to knock down or divert that great ugly big road that runs outside the Ship & Mitre?

"Christine" > > > PS: Antewrp is also a really nice place...with lots of bars!

Well... I never thought Hell could be that much fun. Thanks for concern ;^} Cheers, Joris

The flyover is down to be demolished as part of the plans for the new Liverpool tram system.

Rick Pickup - a made-up name if ever I've heard one - said

I hope that'll mean you can see the pub properly then. It's a beautiful facade that you can't see properly at the moment, or only from very close up.

I'm still confused as to how that tram thing is gonna work. Unless they knock down half of the suburbs there just isn't the space to make it in anyway comprehensive. I guess someone somewhere is stil kickign themselves for knocking down the overhead railway.

Croydon Tramlink has a useful real ale guide, and I believe one is being prepared for Nottingham. Real ale and trams seem to be some of those things where people have overlapping interests!

Going well off topic here, but some kindly person has taken photos of the proposed route and stuck them on the web at