FISH IN MY PINT?!?!?

Where can I get a copy? The Dragon? Don

Virtually all Worcestershire county GBG entries stock it Don and of course that includes the Dragon. However the winter issue won't be out until December. An online version of the current issue can be found at

In article , Allan Bennett writes

Not forgetting vitamins D and B12 which are not abundant in plants.

"Pill poppers"; all the vegetarians I know are overweight, perhaps obtaining essential amino acids from plants necessitates consumption of high calorie nuts etc.?

I like to ask vegetarians and vegans why they think we evolved those pointy things in our mouths.

Ask 'em if they know where their vitamin supplements come from. Or google the phrase "pregnant mare's urine".

You could, but you'd find references to premarin, which is used in HRT, not as a vitamin supplement.

Alan.

In message , Alan Chapman writes

Leave him to enjoy his pint of mare's piss (though for a change a plate of bullshit would have a higher B12 content). The rest of us will make do with cultured bacteria extracts in our bread & cereal.

we have the physical capacity to chew & digest meat - agreed (tho I don't know that the quantities we now eat are suitable for our bodies), but we also have the moral or logical capacity to decide whether we do or do not eat meat (I say moral & logical because I have known veggies that enjoyed eating meat, but decided not to because they saw the raising of livestock as wasteful of resources, when growing crops would create much more food from the same land - from a possible method of ending world hunger by R.Buckminster-Fuller, and others)

I like to ask carni/omnivores who vehemently go on about vegans/veggies (& seem to have hatred for them) why the hell it concerns them so much what someone else decides to eat or not?

I'm no longer a veggie myself, but if you think that veggies/vegans can only be ill or overweight, you're wrong.

In article , MikeMcG writes

Would be a hypocrite if I was to be intolerant of the intolerant?

I did not claim that the could only be ill, and since I self evidently do not know every vegetarian and vegan in the world your presumption that I think they can only be overweight is clearly false. For you to be wrong once might be regarded as a misfortune, but to be wrong twice...

Who did that?

Do you think the intolerant should be simply tolerated then? :~)

(what about being supercillious once . . . ?)

firstly, apologies if it appeared that I was *only* referring to you as being annoyingly vehement in your anti-veggiesm - there were previous posters too. - "bit like a druggies existence(*)"; "pill-poppers(*)"; "fiction of survival without animal protein"; & that veggies are "just surviving" (*) & to describe consuming vitamins as like a druggies existence is even more laughable when you consider how many such "druggies" in the meat-eating population having vitamins/minerals/cod-liver-oil/etc with their breakfast - I don't think they mug old ladies or burgle houses to score their next fix either)

my point about your comment concerning overweight veggies was badly phrased, agreed, how about - "by no means are all veggies are not overweight, only the ones who don't exercise enough & consume too many calories"?

In my experience many veggies have a concern for their well-being that covers both diet & exercise; a commitment to changing their diet could be seen to support this.

but about the health or otherwise of veggies - obviously over-eating &/or under-exercising veggies would be prone to weight-gain similarly to an unhealthy meat-eater; but at a guess I'd say that a normal, sensible veggie diet would beat a "normal" red-meat-based one on health grounds & would be similarly healthy to a recommended balanced omnivorous diet (fish, some white meat, little red meat, veg, grains, etc). MikeMcG

Yes, 'thousands' was a bit of an exaggeration, wasn't it?

So, why is it that the self-righteous vegans and veggies think they can ram their diets down our throats with impunity and at every opportunity, yet display their bully-beef attitudes when they are challenged with evolutionary logic or just plain old preferences?

Allan Bennett Not a fan of the vegetative state

Allan Bennett - a made-up name if ever I've heard one - said

Great! Where do I sign up?

In article , MikeMcG writes

This is deeply philosophical, however to condone or give succour to the intolerant can not be morally acceptable.

I will tolerate that.

I do not consider my phrase "pll-poppers" to have the pejorative cache of "a bit like a druggies existence".

This is probably true, since vegetarians form a small subset of the people I know they can not form a representative sample and it is unreasonable to extrapolate to the set of all vegetarians.

Unfortunately whilst some of those I know do take care in exercise and diet the care does not extended to calorie intake.

I can but concur on this contention. I distrust and avoid any flesh I can not identify without resorting to a DNA lab.

I *think* you're saying that a "normal" omnivorous diet tends to be unbalanced.

Yes?

I think I'd agree. But hen from observation of the health status of various veggies at work, and their normal diet I'd say the statement holds true for both camps.

Some people just eat badly. Some are veggies, some aren't.

Anyway, back to the original item - no sensible drinker drinks finings...

I am a perfectly happy & healthy vegetarian of 18 years+.

For what it's worth, I love my real ale and would obviously prefer the non fish based finings to be used, but hey, you can't have everything, can you?

For what it's worth, I'm the only person out of an office of ten people (nine non-vegetarians) who hasn't come down with cold or flu in the past three months... it's funny how when I do get the sniffles, people are always so helpful to tell you that it's because I'm a vegetarian and that I should eat some meat! :-)

Dom

In article , Dom writes

If I am not a vegetarian and I do not get the flue but I do get "the sniffles" can someone please explain?

I know that I can!

Junque26/11/03 11:41 PM

A flea met a fly in the flue Said the fly to the flea, "what's to do!" "Well, we better fly... ...in this flue we could fry!", So they flew thru a flaw ... but then caught a bad dose of influenza...

OK....

....I'll get me coat

CR

But why can a bird "fly" but a fly can't "bird" :-)?

Why does a chicken? I don't know why.