pub name

Many pubs were demolished when the first wave of town centre development hit Basingstoke in the late 60's/early 70s. One such pub was The Barge, named because of the nearby terminus of the old Basingstoke Canal. Another was The Goat.

A new pub was incorporated into the town centre, and the two names were combined to create 'The Goat and Barge'. The bar was styled as the side of a narrowboat and painted in traditional canal colours. Unfortunately like many such modern town centre pubs it gained a bad reputation and attracted a none-to-pleasant clientelle. To try and change its image the name was altered to 'The Nightjar'. Like many name changes it didn't acheive its aim and it became quite run down.

Subsequent development lead to the whole area being demolished and the new Festival Place development built. Again. a new pub was incorporated, right where the canal basin used to be. It has a very 'traditional' name. Lloyd's No.1

John B

I would love to know if this is true. It is the derivation of the name that I have heard. The Case is Altered is in Case Lane and was originally The Case. When licenses were brought in way back when for selling alcohol, The Case was too small to qualify or apply for a licence. So it was extended and became The Case is Altered, since when as Steve says, it hasn't.

Stuart Hudson

I'm quite taken with the Walter de Cantelupe in Worcestershire. The pub has a website with photos: . (Unusually for a pub website, it even has a page for the beers.)

A little diligent Googling reveals that Walter was Bishop of Worcester from 1237 to 1266. He was also "founder of the White Ladies' Nunnery at Worcester, and the advocate of the liberties of the English Church against Romish oppression". I expect that would have given him quite a thirst for good ale.

how about "the mops and brooms" borehamwood named after a gipsy fight years ago

Andy

In article , John B writes

Yes, for the worst.

Fortunately, we in West Berkshire CAMRA successfully scuppered that one.

Roy.

Amazingly I drove past that very pub yesterday and noticed its unusual name wondering what it was about. It's amazing what can be picked up from lurking.

Actually I thought it was in Gloucestershire I saw it. I was making my way towards Evesham from Chipping Campden. Perhaps it was a different one.

You might possibly be interested in the "Inn Sign Society" at the (unobvious) URL of:

Regards

Chris

There's also another Case is Altered in Eastcote, Middlesex. Some people maintained there was some mangled connection with the Infante de Castile, for a reason that escapes me now.

It's a play:

The connection you're thinking of is for the derivation of the name Elephant & Castle

The folk-etymology. Elephant & Castle actually relates to the Cutlers' guild.

I recall reading somewhere (a long time ago) that 'The Case is Altered' comes from 'La Casa Alta'; unfortunately I can't recollect where I read it.

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In message , Uncle Dunkel writes

We'd like a John O'Groats pub near Reading to go with the Lands End