You did. I sent you a check.
I keep telling people: Germany now is where we were in the late 1950s. We need to go over there and save what's good before the d******ds in the suits s*it all over everything. When beer's selling for 5 Euro a case...bad decisions are being made at every level on the chain.
Really? I thought Strolling C*ck was one of them-there Belgium beers, like Stella Artwah.
"> The "Victory Hop Devil" at 1516 Brewing Co in Vienna rawked, though.
Don - you ever tried Bönnsch? As it seems, I'm going to be able to taste it next month. Stop on the way to Bamberg ;^} Would like to hear your opinion, if you did. Joris
And you're both much more fun in person. I think the beer has something to do with that.
Well, that, and the funny things we can do with our tattoos.
Yeah, I've been to the Brauhaus in Bonn and slurped down the Bönnsch. It's basically a Wiess - unfiltered Kölsch. Not awe-inspiring, but if the batch is good (and it usually is), it's easy to knock back a few of them. Think of something like an unfiltered pale Sezoens (is the Bocholt brewery still around?) and you'll not be far from the mark.
I was recently in a town not too terribly far from Bonn, drinking Eifeler Landbier, an unfiltered Pilsner lager. I rather liked that one. Gently yeasty without overpowering odd aromas, and no signs of infection or other brewing "accidents." Nice hops on the tongue. It was fun pounding down glass after glass while hanging with cousins and their spouses. Oh, and the beer was all free. Open bar, courtesy of my uncle. Amazingly, I felt fine the next morning.
AFAIC, Düsseldorf's Altbiers now thoroughly trounce Cologne's brews. The reason: Altbiers are still holding true to their integrity, while Kölsches get blander and milder. Päffgen and Malzmühle are still great, and Früh is good for a session, but some, like Zunft... oy. Even Gilden seems blander and flabbier than it used to be, and don't get me started about Sion.
Once you get to Bamberg, you'll forget everything else. That town and Düsseldorf are where you're going to find the most flavorful beers in Germany. Too much dumbing down going on in too many oher parts of the country.
If you ever get to Vienna, though, head for places like the 1516 Brewing Co., Siebensternbräu, and Fischerbräu. 1516's clone version of Victory Hop Devil is a welcome relief from the ocean of malty pale beers that typify the mass-market end of Austrian brewing. Siebensternbräu had a frighteningly accurate Rauchbier that would've passed muster as a clone of Spezial (from Bamberg). Fischerbräu featured a Witbier as its summer seasonal: superb, golden beer with the right spice/citrus hints, refreshing as hell. Head to Liebhart's out in the Ottakring district for the best draught Ottakringer beer range in town (except for the brewery's special-events taproom, of course). Liebhart's does such a good job with the Ottakringer beers that Andreas Rosa, Ottakringers Braumeister, hangs out there. That's as good a reason as could be to go there.
Or you could wise the hell up and come to Seattle instead. The guest suite features a king-size bed with its own bathroom, and the nearest brewpub (with a bracingly bitter dry-hopped IPA) is a five-minute walk away. Or we could go to my local - a little more of a walk - to compare the relative merits of, say, Girardin Black Label vs Cantillon Gueuze, or Uerige Doppelsticke vs Aventinus Weizen Eisbock. The last two aren't available in their country of origin (sound familiar, Mr. Belgian Beer Drinker?). Too bad, so sad.
dgs schrieb:
the best beer is the bamberg beer
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Because people are willing to pay for it. Marketing has something to do with it, but the real answer is simple...the more sheep that buy it, the more justifiable the price.
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Because people are willing to pay for it. Marketing has something to do with it, but the real answer is simple...the more sheep that buy it, the more justifiable the price.
------------------------------------------- this really is the answer - Rolling Rock was heavily into "product placement" in 20 something movies of the 90's, and the money was well spent... check out movies like "Reality Bites" and Ethan Hawke is swilling prominently placed Rolling Rock the whole time... I grew up in eastern PA, and you could get Rolling Rock cheap, a 12 pack for $9. When I moved to New Mexico, I could NOT believe the prices they charged for what I consider a decent beer, not that horrible, but certainly not that great, a bartender told me they considered it a "domestic import" whatever the hell that means... Yuengling is better as far as PA beers go, but when I lived in pa and me and all my teenage freinds were buying Busch by the case, Rolling Rock was pretty damned good, in a glass bottle and everything, I hadn't been to Belgium yet, and I still buy some every couple years just for nostalgia.
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