Bodum mocca & Presso "espresso makers"; Eva Solo Coffee maker

| Has anyone seen, tried, tested, reviewed the Bodum Mocca "espresso" | maker, an electric appliance that makes Italian-style coffee,

This is a moka pot, and will certainly make coffee comparable to that from any other moka pot. Bialetti and DeLonghi also make moka pots with hotplates in thei base like this one; of the 3, I would favor the Bialetti, if only because you'd be sure of being able to find replacement gaskets.

| Presso espresso maker, sold in Britain and Canada? It relies on the | operator pouring boiling water into it to brew. No one seems to have | commented about these on alt.coffee yet,

We have certainly had a thread or two on this machine here. Amazon.co.uk sell it for around 40UKP. The design is a copy of the old Gaggia Gilda, without the benefits of active heating, and is unlikely to make decent coffee because of temperature limitations.

| And is anyone familiar with the Chemex-like Eva Solo coffeemaker at | Target(!)at $49.95: |

I wouldn't call the Eva "Chemex-like". the Chemex is a drip maker, the Eva an infusor, more comparable to a press pot. It is certainly attractive from a design point of view.

- David R.

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Attractive design - this sounds like damning with faint praise.

I can't imagine this works well. This device is "unique" because no one else is dumb enough to take this approach. Has anyone seen what the "filter funnel" looks like? You start out with a "soup" of coffee grinds and water, just as in a press pot and the filter has to separate the two by gravity alone (unlike a press pot where you have a pressure assist from the plunger). My guess is either the mesh is coarse enough to allow you to pour out the brew quickly enough, in which case too much mud gets thru, especially if your grinder is less than perfect, or the mesh is too fine and it takes forever for the coffee to come out.

Also they have carefully designed the flask so that it's not possible to get your hand in there, insuring that the flask will turn rancid unless you use a bottle brush.

| Attractive design - this sounds like damning with faint praise.

It wasn't really meant as such; I'm a sucker for good design, though normally in the broad sense which includes the functional aspect.

In this case I have no 1st-hand experience of making coffee with the thing, and while the objections you raise seem plausible, one also assumes that they actually tried the Solo before marketing it, and that it worked OK. (They do say in the brochure not to pour out all the coffee, so as to avoid dregs.)

- David R.

| > | And is anyone familiar with the Chemex-like Eva Solo coffeemaker at | > | Target(!)at $49.95: | > | |

| > I wouldn't call the Eva "Chemex-like". the Chemex is a drip maker, the | Eva | > an infusor, more comparable to a press pot. It is certainly attractive | from | > a design point of view. | >

| > - David R. | > -- | > Less information than you ever thought possible: | >

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The "pourover" espresso machine isn't Presso's invention; an exemplar of the original Faema version has finally turned up on Ebay, Item number: 2279485057, (thanks Roger).

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-- Jim Schulman