i've been for some time wandering around chinese food stores in madrid searching for chinese teas, compressed ones, and classes about tea. i gave up on this last thing at the moment, and for the teas, decided to go with a written puercha letters in chinese [普洱茶], also with any luck. so, didn't even think about asking for compressed.
anyway, for the compressed teas, is there any character [or characters] for compressed tea in general in chinese?
babelfish says: 浓缩茶 for the simplified 濃縮茶 for the traditional
is it correct? would they understand me?
regards from madrid, spain bonifacio barrio hijosa
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Space Cowboy
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for Chinese tea terms. Puer can also be thought of in architectural terms. Look up the character for cake, brick, or bowl. Also the wellknown factories Menghai or Xiaguan. The Chinese characters for Chi Tse or Qi Zi usually refer to the cake stacked in bundles. I think you are better off knowing what to look for than asking someone in the Chinese.
Jim
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Lewis Perin
Do you really want compressed tea no matter what k> 浓缩茶 for the simplified
I think that will be more likely to get you concentrated tea drinks. If you found that Chinese phrase by typing English (or Spanish?) into Babelfish, you can't really expect idiomatic Chinese.
If you want the Chinese for common forms of compressed Pu'er, you could type them into Babelcarp. Try tuocha, bingcha, and fangcha.
/Lew
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Lewis Perin
Thanks for the plug, Jim, but the original poster should be warned that English words like cake, brick, or bowl aren't defined in Babelcarp; their Chinese equivalents are.
/Lew
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Space Cowboy
Well, change it ;-). Anyone could as well use Zhongwen for the Pinyin or English but how many characters would you get for cake,brick,bowl not related to Puer?
Jim
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Mike Petro
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for a list of terms specifically related to Puerh in both Chinese and English. It might serve your needs. Several people have printed it and taken it to China, they were able to successfully communicate with Vendors by using it.
Mike
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psyflake
Thanks a lot Mike, I´ll definetely print it out and take it to China the next time around. Two terms I´m missing (used them a lot in China) are: sample (hehe) and good/best quality (available). Mind adding them ?
Karsten
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Mike Petro
Hi Karsten,
Great suggestions, I will add them both soon. I will also format a special "printer friendly" edition.
Another addition I will make soon, suggested by a friend of mine, will be recordings of the pronunciation of each term. I am leaning towards using mp3s as that way you could put them on an Ipod or whatever.
Mike
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Space Cowboy
China uses tea grades: ¼‰T ¼¶S ji2 grade
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¼× jia3 first
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ÒÒ yi3 second
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ÌØ te4 special
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Sample is different for amount or taste. I dug around for these two so Danny let me know if there is something better when refering to samples of tea.
˜Ó pin3 is a sample amount.
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Ʒ yang4 is a taste sample.
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There are qualitative terms for puer such as GongTing,NuEr,TouDeng which indicate better grade of leaves.
Jim
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Space Cowboy
Oops for those keeping score everything is correct but swap the PinYin terms:
yang4 is a sample amount. pin3 is a taste sample.
Sorry, Jim
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niisonge
Yes, there are words to mean compressed tea in Chinese. But the translation below is incorrect. I wouldn't trust bablefish or any online translator. They all give really muddled results.
This actually means "concentrated tea" or "condensed tea".
For compressed tea, you want these characters: 紧压茶
In Pinyin it's jin ya cha.
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bbh2o
hola,
black/red, or Pu'er), or do you want compressed Pu'er?
yes, i know translators are only a way to remember things you previously know, and to guess something if you don't absolutely have a clue, sometimes is a bit useful, but language is a bit more complex and rich than only few words put together [anyone could notice sometimes i am translating -mentally, but translating- from spanish ;)]
and chinese must be more complex even!
so, i was asking here, because although babelcarp is a incredible tool for introducing in chinese tea world, doesn't translate from english [nothign to say about that, it's your site, you decide the contents], so i didn't use it, i couldn't use if i even don't know what is bingcha ;). well, i must know for the many times these words are mentioned here, but i think having a table like mike petro did at hand is something i must do
and as i dont't know any of these compressed teas, any of them puer or not will do, at least as a contact. first step will be ask for any compressed tea, and then ask which are they, but i only find jasmine teas in all kind of tins, gunpowder, ti kuan yin, and a puer tuocha in bags at 1 euro,
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that bought to compare to the puer i use to have from bomec... and i can only say they are differents... maybe i like them all, or i don't have trained my taste too much to appreciate the quality of a puer
anyway, thanks all a lot for all the knowledge shown here ;))
regards from madrid, bonifacio barrio hijosa
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teaismud
Excuse my pidgin mandarin, but you could try :
good = hao de best = zui hao de
and you were right about sample, 'he he' (pronounced hur hur) should do it if you point to the tea and to your mouth alternatively
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