Query: Tea/Coffee caffeine article...

Feb 01, 2011 Last reply: 15 years ago 11 Replies

Hi all,



Several time, people here have cited an on-line article that discusses the levels of caffeine in tea vs. that in coffee. It was lengthy and careful.



I searched for the article (or a link to it) in the archives, but must not have been looking right...



Anyhow, can anybody point me to that article? Can anybody suggest how I might better search for it? (I could *swear* I had bookmarked it!)



Many thanks!


Nigel at Teacraft always quoted Caffeine levels. Google would be a good bet because the information is readily available.

Jim

Hi Jim,

That's what I was looking for! :) Many thanks :)

I just finished Tokyo Year Zero by David Peace. The book covers a serial killer immediately after the war with Japan. I just spent some time translating these Kanji characters ??????? printed on the cover which means literally occupation start first year. More or less what the title suggests. In my Japanese dictionary and on the cover ? is printed slightly differently and I couldnt get any online Kanji dictionary to show it correctly which through me off the track for awhile.

Jim

I guess the two versions you mean are

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and
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?

The first one is as you'd usually see it printed while the second one is much closer to actual handwriting.

You are right. Finally I decided to use Unicode. It shows the varients.

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is what I see printed in Chinese Dictionaries and online

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is what I see printed in my Japanese Dictionary and in this case on the hardcover.

I cant find any online Kanji dictionary that recognizes the second one just the first one.

Thanks, Jim

Interesting that both are in Unicode, with U+9818 being preferred.

At least in Japanese, the two are equivalent. It all comes down to fonts really; U+F9B4 isn't even included in most fonts. That said,

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is what most "normal" fonts that are meant to look like printed text use while
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is what "textbook" fonts or handwriting fonts display for U+9818 (same Unicode code point for both versions).

If your online kanji dictionaries display text and not images, it's probably the font your browser uses that determines how you see it.

NB: Unicode is notoriously poor at correctly mapping character variations and even at differentiating between Chinese/Simplified Chinese/Japanese/Korean versions. I don't recommend relying on that.

When I use the codepoint F9B4 in online Kanji dictionaries I get essentially 'character not found'. Linux and NT supply their own character representation for each Unicode codepoint. Thats why on the Unicode page you get a Glyph and a Browser view. Do you know of codepoints on Unicode where the Glyph and Browser dont match (but not in this case ;-)). Kanji is the Japanese use of traditional Chinese characters. This is the first example where the two dont match. Typographic representation has little or nothing to do with the handwritten form. I am at a complete loss when it comes to cursive representation.

Jim

Not really sure what to tell you except that there are lots of different fonts in Chinese/Japanese just like there are in English/Roman scripts. And yes, depending on the font _you_ use (the "browser view" you mention), characters will look slighty or significantly different than the reference representation in the Unicode standard.

Today's kanji are not always the same as traditi> When I use the codepoint F9B4 in online Kanji dictionaries I get

We’re not allowed to socialize with males or have anything to do with them. I did have a lot of male friends, but my father didn’t know about them.

Until one day at school

Ill take your word there can be a difference between Kanji and Chinese characters which is new to me. My 1960 Japanese English dictionary looks like it is using the F9B4 codepoint (blurry). My 1960 Chinese Japanese dictionary definitely uses the F9B4 codepoint.

Jim

On Feb 2, 8:07 pm, M M snipped-for-privacy@live.com wrote: ...

Which has more caffeine: a cup of coffee, a cup of tea, or a glass of Coke?

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