This is a decent cognac (XO is entry level drinkability by my
standards), which you ought to drink if you like cognac. If you mix it
with Coke or 7-up, you may be subject to eternal suffering in the firey
pits of hell. A new bottle of this sort would run around $150 retail.
Better cognacs can be had for that price, but if I had this, I would
drink it. Cognac, like other spirits, does not age in the bottle, so
the condition should be as it would be if just bottled.
In case you are really unaware (I don't know if you are or are not),
the general rating is VSOP (complete crap), VS (still crap), then XO,
which is drinkable. In terms of rap clout, this particular brand has
lost something in recent years to Hennessy, or "Henny"--this is
probably very important to you, and therefore the time to drink would
This is analagous to saying that Macallan 25 is "entry level
drinkability" by [your] standards, which marks you as having a remakably
advanced palate, or being filthy rich, or being a pompous ass. I don't know you,
so I won't guess. 8;)
Always available for slightly under US $100 in major east coast cities.
A personal and subjective judgement.
Hennessey has for decades been my favorite of the mass-marketed XOs, but I
surely haven't seen this increase in popularity reflected in availability in US
bars. In our current drinking experience, both Remy and Courvoisier remain much
better known in the US.
I really tried to get it with cognac. Going to masterglasses (oops classes)
on whisky/spiritfestivals and drinking from my friend bottles.
But I find them quite boring and too sweet compared to even ordinary
On the master class, hold by a house called Pierre ferrand I learned that
all cognac are coloured and sugar-added. Thats prolly why it aint me
Well, (1) I do have a reasonably advanced palate, (2) I'm a doctoral
student supported by my wife who is a public school teacher (I'd be
rich in Paraguay, maybe), and (3) your crass reply suggests that you
have already labeled me a pompous ass...but then the subsequent
emoticon, which appears to be a winking man wearing a brazier on his
forehead, or a bug-eyed Frenchman whose moustache was clipped on one
side, suggests otherwise. If I point out all of your misspellings would
it confer your inclination? Smart ass is probably much closer to the
truth; I'm too immature to be considered pompous > ...A new bottle of this sort would run around $150 retail...
Indeed, but as prices vary, I threw this out a (high) ballpark retail
Maybe. But so is saying that better whisky than JW black can be had for
the same price. I like JW black, but if I were given a $30 gift
certificate to Park Ave Liq, I would be looking at malts. Also an
opinion, but one that is informed and easily justifiable.
For example, a far better (IMSD(super-duper)HO) cognac in that price
range would be Ferrand Selection de Agnes. Plus, to technically reduce
my statement to sheer opinion, one would have to contend that
Courvoissier XO is indisputably as good as or better than all other
$100 cognacs. That would also be a person and subjective judgment, and
probably not one that you would have unless you were a marketing rep.
for Courvoisier! By my statement I was not suggesting that CV XO is
garbage (it's quite good, actually), but that other cognacs exist
beyond the big 4, and that some of them are better values.
I've actually never tried it, and because I prefer malts and am now
very poor, I have not been able to justify its purchase. Should I
reconsider do you think? If not, what would you offer as the best $100
cognac? I'd love to know, because getting cognac suggestions on this
group is pretty hit-or-miss, and I'm always open to suggestions. Thanks.
Bzzzt, thanks for playing? I hope that's not your best. An FWIW, you
have misinterpreted my sarcasm as arrogance. I'll try to use more
emoticons in the future to help you out. ;-)
And just to clarify, are you actually suggesting that VS is drinkable,
or were you just demonstrating your e-prowess? ;-) ;-) ;-)
They're not misspellings; they're typos, caused by the effect recent eye surgery
has had on my depth perception, and thus my two-fingered typing... not to
mention my tennis and pool shooting. 8;(
...and I think you misused the word "crass." 8;)
Ah, a man after my own heart.
In general, Cognac is much more expensive in the US than whisky for an
equivalent level of quality. The main problem I have with Cognac is its
sweetness -- I find it's not very useful as a digestif. For that purpose both my
wife and myself find that either Armagnac or top-quality Salignac (extremely
hard to find in the US) is much more enjoyable, and calvados is unbeatable.
It's one that I happen to agree with, but others might not. I know a couple of
people who think that Courvoisier XO is the finest drink they have ever tasted.
No, I don't think so. You can do better. And you can always sample the
mass-marketed XOs when you come upon them reasonably priced in a bar, which
My favorite Cognacs that I've found in the US in that price regionwould be:
1. Kelt XO
2. Delamain Vesper
3. Hine Antique
4. Meukow XO
But the real eye opener was last year, when my wife and I spent a few days in
the beautiful town of Cognac. Besides visiting the distilleries, we spent those
evenings after dinner working our way through the 100+ better-than-VSOP
offerings at the Cognac Cafe, right next to our hotel. Most of them were
amazingly fine, much more distinctive in character than the mass blends
available in the US. The Meukows were new to us at that point, as were the
products of the Larsen distillery ("the Cognac of the Vikings"). We brought back
a bottle of the Larsen XO especially distilled and bottled to commemorate the
Vikings' discovery of America; it is spectacular. (Of course, it helps if your
last name is Larsen or Larson, as mine is!) Unfortunately, I have yet to find
Larsen Cognac in the US.
We highly recommend Cognac over Bordeaux as a destination if you're ever in that
region of France and don't have time for both.
BTW, where are you located?
-- Larry (crass to the end; this is the end.)
Still don't get it? OK, let me walk you through, step by step.
This is simply wrong. The 'general rating' hierarchy for cognac brandy
is as follows: VS, _then_ VSOP, then XO.
You made the quip that you were providing your 'general rating' sequence
in case the original poster was 'unaware'. Then you demonstrated that it
was in fact _you_ who was unaware. Ha ha.
No, I get it. My humor can be a bit cryptic (or stupid, many would
say). The joke is that VSOP, VS, and *** (which ironically serves as a
variation of @!*&#...) are all the same and therefore interchangeable
in that they can only be used as mixers or, more likely, status symbols
for the lower classes (i.e. "cognac = the good life), with the same
intention as gilded furniture, surf n' turf, lead crystal, white suits,
heart shaped jacuzzis, and anything else that stinks of very poor taste
(especially if inspired by Rococco or Colonial America), purchased
expressly for the purpose of bridging oneself to the "other half." Or,
to coin my own phrase, Daddy Warbucks would be proud. Omigosh, I'm
beginning to sound a bit smug. Heavens to Betsy, no high tea for me!
Anyway, you are indeed correct. ;-)
Another poster used the term to describe me, I think. Crass my ass!!
No, I'm not really into that sort of thing. I'm happily married ;-)
UH, I MEAN, UH >:-/ Whachoo lookin at?!
My dad is partial to Coors Light. It used to only be available in the
Western United States, and now it can be purchased anywhere that fine
crafted beers or venison jerky are sold.
WOW!!! Last summer I was stranded in an airport in Queensland and
sampled about six malts. I'm lucky to have ever made it home! I think
after sampling 100+ cognacs I wouldn't be able to perceive taste...or
sight...or how to get back to the hotel next door!
You mean you don't know which? See, that's what happens when you drink
100 glasses of cognac, have eight fingers lopped off, and birds peck your eyes.
I just moved from Utah (home of the LDS church, which nobody outside of
Utah knows is the technically correct code (remarkably close to how
LSD might look if you took some) for Mormons), where I was unable to
find almost anything I wanted. Fortunately many states have laws that
allow them to illegally ship booze. Oh, my apologies to any Mormon
lurkers who may be doing "research" here for their Gentile friends ;-)
My wife is a teacher of the French language and culture and has lived
in France three times. We had our honeymoon in the Savoie region and,
sadly, I've not been back since. I'll work this into my extensive
roster of fantasy theme-based French tours (cathedral tour;
Caville-Coll pipe organ tour, particularly involving the major posts of
well-known late 19th/early 20th C organ-composers); legendary stages of
the Tour de France tour; lesser-known not-available-in-the-US cheese
tour; wine tour (esp for white Burgundy); cuisine tour; farm
community/regional cuisine tour; ski tour, museum tour...)
For nearly two weeks now, in beautiful Columbus, OH, USA. Anyone who
does not know where that is, look for the proverbial armpit of the
world, which is West Virginia, and it's right next to that. You?