buying wine, Budpest or Vienna

Joseph Coulter wrote in news:Xns97E7AD86ED8C3yourvacationcomcastn@216.196.97.136:

OK so all it takes is admitting your ignorance, I will be at Groza Peter Rakpart between Szechenyl and Erzsebet bridges, any wine stores nearby?

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:03:22 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

I think ships tie up between the Chain bridge and Elisabeth Bridge

There's an excellent wine shop called Bortarsasag in Batthyany utca, in Buda which is set a little back from the river side not too far north of the Chain bridge (Szechenyi). There's a Batthyany Metro station on the river. Can you read _any_ hungarian as they've got a website!!

When we were there, we found a shop in Vaci Utca that had an interesting selection. Vaci utca id the tourist centre and is pedestrianised. It's parallel to the river and not for from it in Pest between the bridges.

Ian Hoare wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Ian you found it! Thak you. Just after I posted we got our "tickets" and they clearly spelled out the location that you came up with. So I guess the next question is should I get "Bulls Blood?" (If so what can I expect?)

If now was before 1989, I'd say get it. In 2006, I'd say don't. Unless Ian has some inside information about different producers of Egri Bikaver, and says which ones are good. In your place, I'd be looking for dry furmints. Actually, if you are still in Jacksonville, you can buy an export version of Egri Bikaver at the local Total Wine store and try it. (Apologies if you already knew that).

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Spent a week in Vienna and asked about purchasing wine at tripadvisor.com and was recommended: Wein and Co

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=

Very nice place and can do wine tasting before purchasing. Close to the open farmer's market (forgot the name). Came home with 3 bottles.

I'm no expert, but the Egri Bikaver that I've had was nothing special at all. As Elko says, there may be some exceptional stuff that I haven't seen, but that's my take. Instead, if you have any fondness for dessert wines you should seek out some Tokaji. Again, my knowledge is scant compared to that of Ian, Michael or Mike, but I'd be hunting down some Tokaji Aszu 6 putts from the likes of Istvan Szepsy (which might very well be nigh unto impossible to find in Buda for all I know).

Mark Lipton

Elko Tchernev wrote in news:44986ff5$1 snipped-for-privacy@x-privat.org:

Well I am looking more for a good couple of bottles for immediate comsumption. I tend to like Burgundies, St. Emilion and Rhone, for whites, I am pretty open as long as the natural fruit comes through.

Try to go for producers like Attila Gere, Gere & Weninger, Ede Tiffán, Józef Bóck (all from Villány) or Weninger (Sopron).

M.

Not quite sure *where* you want to BOB - don't forget, it's a concept quite unknown in Austria (and in Hungary probably too). Try to ask in advance.

You might take a look on this thread on the Parker forum where info on Vienna was asked (and given by youknowwhom ;-):

HTH,

M.

Michael Pronay wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@pronay.com:

I will be on a river cruise and they do allow BYOB with a corkage fee. (so is that guy on the Parker forum reliable ?)

thank you.

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:25:32 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

I don't think I'd make Bull's blood my first choice. However, (you do know it comes from Eger, don't you) if you search for wines from Eger in the wine shop, you will see that they stock a wide variety of wines, varying from about $5 up to $45. Bulls blood is called Bikaver in Hungarian, and is to be found from about $10 to $40. Tibor Gall has a very fine reputation and so if you did want to find out more about him, for about $75 (14k Ft) you could get a special three bottle selection of his wines. What I'm saying is that a $45 bottle of Bulls Blood of Eger is going to be a far cry from the sort of muck exported to gullible sensation seekers!!

But I rather agree with those who would have you look elsewhere. Villany is an up and coming area and Gere Attila is one of the most exciting winemakers there.

However, it would be perverse to visit Hungary and refuse to try some Tokaji Just look at what's on offer from the region.

Grof Degenfeld is VERY serious and his dry furmint is only around $5

I've always rated Hétszolo Hárslevelu késoi szüret (late harvest) very high, and it's round about $10.

At about $90 Kitalyudvár's 6 putts is going to be about as good as they get, though Orémus 2000 6 putts is hardly going to be a slouch either. They are neck and neck in reputation.

And finally, they list 9 different Szepsy wines. How could you resist tasting the difference between a late harvest 2000 Tokaj-Hegyalj and a 6 Puttonyos Aszú 2000 Tokaj? They are both under $100 a bottle.

Just make sure you take notes before you drink yourself under the table!!

I see!

Definitely not.

M.

From the banks of the Danube take subway line U1 to Stephansplatz. Then you're right in the center of Vienna with everything I mentioned on the Parker Forum within walking distance.

Btw, Meinl am Graben has a wine shop in the basement. Not the cheapest in town, but with knowlegdeable people and an excellent choice of top producers.

M.

Ian Hoare wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Since I plan on doing most of this after getting off of an intercontinental flight I will be half way there to start!

Thanks to all for the support in my quest.