E. Guigal Chateauneuf-du-Pape 2001

Hello all

New member to the group here. Been enjoying wine for about six years, and have moved from the low-priced category into the midrange to upper-middle range over the past six months or so.

My latest wine worth mentioning was the 2001 E. Guigal Chateuneuf-du-Pape. This was my first CNP, and I was very impressed. I don't consider myself an expert so I won't delve into tasting notes, though I do have a question.

How does this stack up to typical CNPs, if there is such a thing? Complexity, relatively slow development of nose, and low tannin being the key aspects I found.

I'm looking forward to trying more.

-ben

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Ben Snyder
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Welcome, it's always nice to have new people around. There have been some brats lately, but the majority of us are quite nice and helpful people and I'm sure someone will answer your question :-) Anders

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Anders Tørneskog

Ben Snyder wrote in news:WPGdncw4ro3Ll3PZnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@adelphia.com:

In my experience Guigal CdP is good but unexceptional I have found more complexity in even some similarly priced versions from other merchants. (Note Guigal is a grower in the north of the Rhone, but in CdP they are a negociant, they buy it and make or bottle as their own (look at the label you will see mis en bouteille or some other discriptor to tell you what the label name's relationship is to the wine.)

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Joseph Coulter

Hello, Ben, and welcome to our (usually) happy little corner of Usenet. As Jospeh said, Guigal is a highly respected producer of Cote-Rotie in the Nothern Rhone Valley who buys grapes from CNdP and makes wine from them (i.e., acts as an eleveur-negociant). As such his CNdPs are rarely at the top rank, but are usually very decent examples. In 2000, Guigal produced what I think was his best CNdP of the past decade (at least). One other attribute: his CNdPs are cheaper than many of the top domaines'. FWIW, here are my favorites: Vieux Telegraphe, Le Vieux Donjon, Dom. du Pegau, Clos des Papes, Dom. de Marcoux and La Nerthe. (Ch. de Beaucastel may be the most famous and one of the priciest, but it is atypical for the region -- however I rank it as one of the top domaines, too)

2001 was the last of a string of 4 successful vintages there, and is a "classic" year (good acidity and the potential for improving with age for 10-20 years). CNdP is also known for "shutting down" from age 5-8 or so, so some of the 2001s are no longer so pleasant to drink as they once were (this seems to be less true now than it was 10 years ago, though). If you can find some of the top 2001s, put them away for awhile and see what they become. FWIW, I like drinking them with game birds, rabbit, venison, etc.

HTH Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

I have found a mixed bag in CdP's over the years. I love Rhone wines and much is dependent on the vintage and the time in bottle. The dumb phase is not always predictable but with sufficient opening time many are ready even from dumb periods. Guigal is often more tannic from my perspective and may need more time. Beaucastle and Chapoutier also tend to be more tannic and need a lot more time but are worth the effort though the price is less than agreeable.

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Lawrence Leichtman

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