Investing in WINE

Hi

I am planning to buy some wine to invest for the future but not sure where to start. I want to buy 3-4 bottles but not sure which wine and what size.

Can anyone give me some advice on which wine and where should I buy that may worth something in the future?>?>>>

Thank you on advance.

Regards

Efe

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Efe
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Reply to
Timothy Hartley

You should buy a few bottles of Mouton Cadet (Baron P. de Rothschild), and then come back here in ten years to ask us what it's worth. :-P

Reply to
Chris Sprague

Thanks Chriss say i have a 10 year old Mouton Cadet, how much would it be worth now? :-) I am loking to buy and keep it for 30 years + so the damn thing may worth something by that time??

Reply to
Efe

Well if it has a real cork, that might make it a collector's item in 30 years time.

At least, one can only hope.

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Chris Sprague

Reply to
sibeer

ROFLMO!

3-4 BOTTLES?

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Reply to
uraniumcommittee

Mouton Cadet is nothing more than cat piss - it always was - open the bottle and use it for mouthwash. I like your post though - it allows me to be creative.

Reply to
zara

I doubt that one can realize much ROI with 3-4 bottles of any wine, however, about the closest that one could come would be to purchase 1st growth Bdx, Petrus, Le Pin, of some of the (now) cult CA Cabs. Since you have missed the futures on the '00 vintage Bdx, you will pay a steep price, cutting into the ROI factor. They, and the other two Bdx WILL appreciate in value, if stored properly. The CA Cabs might well not hold "cult" status, or even last the 30 years. Vintage Port would be another possibility, however its world-wide demand can flutcuate wildly. Who knows. One thing with the Port, is that in 30 years, if no one else wants it, it will surely be very drinkable and most enjoyable. Also, the cost of providing a safe cellar for just a few bottles will likely offset any monetary gains.

The vast majority of the subscribers/contributors to this NG, as has been pointed out, are much, much more inclined to "invest" in wines that THEY will drink at some time in the future, for their own hedonistic pleasure.

I'd invest in real estate, instead, and just hope that I picked the right local to do so.

Hunt

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Hunt

With the mention of a cat piss character, you surely must be describing the Mouton-Cadet Bordeaux Blanc? Sauvignon Blanc from Bordeaux is often favorably described as having a bit of a 'cat piss' nose. I know you meant to be derogatory, but you may haveunintentionally complimented the wine you were trying to knock.

However, I never considered using Bordeaux sourced Sauvignon Blanc as mouthwash.

- Chris

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Chris Sprague

Reply to
Lawrence Leichtman

I wouldn't expect that someone who has been posting here for more than

3 years would need to have it explained to them that my post was tongue-in-cheek. Even the original poster got the joke, and replied in kind.

Every few weeks, someone comes in here saying how they found an old bottle of Mouton-Cadet in their grandparent's/parent's cellar, and ask the group how many hundreds of dollars it's worth. It happens so often it has become a joke of sorts.

- Chris

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Chris Sprague

Ripple, buy all you can afford!

Reply to
Howard Appel

A-ha! Then the real question should be:

Is Mouton-Cadet really all that bad if so many bottles keep showing up here and there or is the reason of their conservation lie in the fact that it is just too bad a wine to drink in the first place?

Any Grandpas or Grandmas around to answer?

By the way, when did the first Mouton-Cadet hit the market?

Cheers,

Monika

Reply to
Night-Owl

It most definitely is THAT bad and worse, I would rather have a Coke.

Drive by the place where they make it, looks more like a steel mill than a vineyard...

Cheers

Mike

Reply to
Mike Tommasi

Neither nor. It's the word play with Mouton-(Rotschild), one of Bordeaux' top red wines which can age for decades in good years (which comes from the same proprietors btw). Many people think of Mouton-Cadet being something extra-special, so they keep (and forget about) it.

In the early 1930s.

M.

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Michael Pronay

Mike Tommasi wrote in

Mike, I emailed you last weekend. Did you receive my email?

Best,

Santiago

Reply to
Santiago

!Hola Santi!

yes I got it, but this being october those funny Loire guys are out in the vineyards looking for shrivelled bunches of grapes covered in rot. I have to get in touch with Mr. Baudouin about a botrytis event next week, so I'll ask him about that restaurant in Angers area for you...

Can you not make a detour by Montpellier on the 19-20th? Lots of wine to taste Santi....... ;-)

Do you fly into Paris? When is your flight back?

Mike

Reply to
Mike Tommasi

No need to do that. I finally found a french website were they pointed out the link between the restaurant and Mr. Baudoin.

Oh, only 800km!!!

We cannot fly because I still have to find an airline that allos a passanger to carry five cases of wine back home!!!! So we drive.

We will be visiting Domaine Huet on thursday and Mark Angeli on friday.

Best,

S.

Reply to
Santiago

Wish I was there...

Which way do you drive, I guess the Atlantic road through Bordeaux... oh well, if you were going by Catalunya it might have been possible...

I'll let you know about the restaurant as soon as PB calls me back.

Cheers

Mike

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Mike Tommasi

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