[LONG] I come from a land down under ...

G'day mates - how are yew? So I'm back, after crossing 8 timezones, starting at at 8 am n Sidney and landing at 8 am in Copenhagen the next day - or s it the previous? after a voyage of 32 hs. My first visit to someplace outside Europe and, I must say, not an experience I would have been without. The land of Oz - very welcoming, language related to English, currency razoo (?), the males are called 'mate' or 'bloke', while the females apparently can be called 'love', or, rather not, 'sheila' which latter appears pejorative. A group, regardless of gender, is 'you guys'. If the group is composed of kangaroos it is called a 'mob'. Main produce appears to be kangaroo skin hats, and slighlty oaked Chardonnays capped under stelvin.

Our first meal was, not surprisingly since we lived in China town, in a Chinese restaurant, the House of Guangzhou, which had a fairly good and comprehensive wine list. This apparently was more rule than exception - the only place we did NOT find an acceptable wine list was in a Japanese teppanyaki, Ichiban, where you had the choice of one white and one red, both from Lindemans. Not spoiled for choice, there. To a Swede, wine prices in the restaurants were seriously affordable, and not much different from what we found in the few bottle shops we visited. Prices stayed mostly in the range AUD 25 - 35, with an outlier of AUD 67 for a PInot Noir from TAsmania, Fire Gully 2001, which on the one hand was quite enjoyable but on the other did not taste muchlike a PN. Lots of chocolate and mocha, black berries, but if somebody had told me it was made of Merlot rather than PN I would have accepted that without hesitation. Following the advice of Salil, we took a coach tour to Hunter Valley with Boutique Wine Tours, and visited in all 4 producers. Thank you for the tip, Salil, it was great. Favorite palces were the very small family run Ernest Hill, and the largish Brokenwood, where our experiences were better than yours (yes, we got to taste the Graveyard Shiraz which to my mind will need some serious cellar time to reach its potential) - place was rowdy and boisterous, but the service was, as almost everywhere, warm and friendly, and well-informed.

Obviously the producers are busily converting to stelvin caps - out of 13 bottles brought home, 8 were uNDer stelvin.

Varietal on the move: verdelho - they all had one, or several. Verdelho is of course most known as one of the 4 classical Madeira grapes - here it was vinified as a white dry table wine, with lots of tropical fruit, spicyness, soemwhat like a Muscat d' Alsace but more notes of orange zest. Recommendations were to serve it with shellfish and oriental spicy food, which may be a good idea. I wouldn't save any of these wines for the long haul - they appear to be for early drinking. Reception everywhere was on the 'I'll-put-another-shrimp-on-the-barbi-for-you' standard. And then we heard that in Oz, the Sidney-ites are noted for being a bit reserved and stuck-up. Oh dear.

Favorite restaurant was 'Fish At the Rocks', the Rocks being a part of the town with a certain notoriety for good eating and drinking places. A bit like "Ma cuisine" in Beaune, but even friendlier service. Also loved 'Kobe Jones' in Darling Harbour, but don't order their house wine which we found rather uninteresting.

Loved the city. Loved (what I saw of) the country. That I, besides the wine, ahve added 32 bird species to my list of firm observations, is not beside the point and next time I'll bring my binoculars.

Too bad it is not reachable by Volvo.

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren
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Just curious as to how you did the Brokenwood tour - was it with the Boutique Wine Tours group, or were you dropped off to see it alone? Either way, from what I've heard from many others, my experience there last time was a bit of an anomaly there - so when I'm next in Sydney, I'll be paying it another visit. Which were the other 2 wineries you went to?

Yep, still can't figure why. The people (both in the HV and the city) are very friendly and welcoming (and this was when I'd gone by in the tourist off-season). As far as hospitality goes, haven't seen many places that compare to Sydney or New Zealand for sheer warmth and friendliness.

Can't go wrong with the Rocks. I'd had a number of very good meals there, including some very good pizza at Zia Pina and Italian Village. Quite envious of the dining and wining options most Sydneysiders have.

Salil

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Salil

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After a hasty lunch, we scooted over to Brokenwood on our own. We had a meagre hour to visit the unlisted wineries, so we asked our driver (Klaus) which was the best and he said Brokenwood. We footed over the vineyard (saw two Crested Pigeons en route, BTW) and dived in. No worries.

With the tour proper, we visited Irongate (uninteresting), Audrey Wilkinson (good Merlot, good Dessert Semillon, some acceptable whites), and Ernest Hill.

Cheers

Nils Gsutaf

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Nice. Had gone there with a friend on a separate day trip, after first spending a couple of hours at Tempus Two.

Skipped Iron Gates for Mount Pleasant, which IMO is definitely worth visiting for the dessert semillon alone. Had picked up a couple of bottles of the 98 late harvest at very reasonable prices, and they were quite stunning. Would suggest putting it on the agenda if there's a trip back to the Hunter in the future.

Liked Wilkinson, particularly the dessert semillon and the liqueur verdelho. Was the Merlot in question their 03 Coonawarra Merlot?

Salil

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Salil

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Noted. Certainly hope to get back to Oz, but will probably be Melbourne next time.

Don't remember vintage but was definitely Coonawarra. Funny, really, Coonawarra being mostly nioted for CabSauv - this is not the first Merlot from Cw that tickles me fncy.

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Great minds thinking alike, fools differing, etc, etc.

Actually looking at a couple of day trips into the Yarra Valley/around the Heathcote for this December. I'm planning to head down for the cricket on Boxing Day in Melbourne, so will almost certainly see some of the wineries in the region (and definitely do the Yarra). Keep me posted if you are heading back; might be able to provide some info from this trip as well.

Ditto for Tasmania in fact, which we'll probably head to after Melbourne - not sure about how many of the wine regions we'll explore, but there'll definitely be a winery or two on the itinerary.

Salil

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Salil

Excellent. You will see the "cultured" side of Oz, mate...:>)

hooroo....

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Matt S

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What yew bleedin' talking about? I've been to the Sydney Opera house, me! That's as cultured as it gets, mate! Seriously, you have any suggestions in a wineous direction for Melbourne? Yarra valley would appear a given, at least.

Cheers!

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Hanging Rock's a popular picnic site an hour outside, and the Hanging Rock Winery there is known for some great wines. I've tasted their Heathcote Shiraz before, and it blew me away.

It's definitely on my list for this December, whether I'll have time with the cricket on is another issue.

Salil

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Salil

Yarra Valley is my backyard, so obviously I am biased. If you like Pinot Noir, Chardonnay and Cabernet blends, hit the Valley!! If pepper and spice style shiraz is is your poison, you need to go to Heathcote (this regions Shiraz's ARE flavour of the month, and ARE fantastic), or perhaps more to your liking Nils would be the magnificent fortifieds of the Rutherglen region. The first two regions are day trips from Melbourne Central, the Rutherglen region can be done in a day, but best suited to an overnighter!

Melbourne is also the greatest city in Oz for dining... arts...and sport, wheras Sydney excite with eatin', kulcha, water sports and rugger...:>)

hooroo.....

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Matt S

Hello Matt; I have taken note of your suggestions - of course, there is more than a year till that voyage will bceome reality. Still: I have so far only tasted one of the majestic Rutherford Muscats. As a rule, I don't go heavy on the fortifieds, they being too alcoholic for my delicate palate - the one I tried had a certain similarity to the Portuguese Moscatel de Setubal. So help me, I find a note of curry in them both. Very good with dark chocolate, I'd say. HAd it as dessert wine in excellent eatery Fish at the ROcks. There is little comparison with the third ilk of fortified Muscats, thsoe of Southern France (Beaume-de-Venise, Fron tignac etc). IIRC, Yarra is the coldest wine producing area in Australia - I believe it can be _really_ cold there. We will hit the area late November - beginning of summer down under, then. TAsting Australian wines on their homeground has certainly widened my perspectives a lot, the ones we get up here tend to be too fruity-sweety, too oakey-pokey ... those we had there were as a rule much more interesting, not to mention palatable. It IS a pity you can't drive to Australia with your Volovo. SOmebody will have to look into that. As well as this crazy thing with the clock, you'd expect them to have sorted that out by now? I mean, that the sun is shining brightly when it is obviously just a little past midnight?

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Agree; I was at a tasting for a range of Heathcote Shirazes from 01 to

04 a couple of months ago, and I was simply blown away. Love that earthier, spicy character they seem to have.

Must disagree here. You lot are obsessed with the footy. At least there's some high quality cricket in Sydney! :-p

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Salil

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Cricket? Little insect that goes chirp chirp at high frequencies? ;)

Cheers

Nils Gustaf[1]

[1] I once saw about twenty minutes of a cricket game. Unbe-defile-grandmother-lievable. Didn't get anything. You probably have to be raised with it. As bad as baseball.
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Give the man a cigale... ;-)

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Mike Tommasi

Huh? I thought the cigale was what we Anglophones call a cicada. Though the image of a "chante cigale" would make more sense to me if it were the more euphonious gryllidae.

Mark Lipton Orthoptera Rules!

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Mark Lipton

"Mike Tommasi" wrote ...............

If that man keeps defiling grandmothers, he will get more than a cigale.....

Besides, nothing beats watching a game which lasts for 5 days (six hours per day) - where there is a probability that the game will finish in a draw .....

Only the English could invent such a game - and only we of Anglo-Saxon heritage (or ex-colonialists) could perpetuate it, and truly appreciate its eccentricities.

I say. good shot olde chap!!!

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st.helier

Cigales from Provence are Cicada omi. The males make a sound similar to many crickets, but much louder I would say.

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Mike Tommasi

Ha! You're from New Zealand, what would you know of A) Test cricket, given that you lot have more or less ceased to play it? B) Five day games, when the Black Caps usually last about three, max? :-)

Salil

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Salil

"Salil" wrote ..........

Quiet in the cheap seats (bloody ex-colonials) - I'll bet we NZ could run the Singapore one-legged, half blind national team close!!!!!!!!!

Besides, I personally know several Indian bookmakers who pay me lots of rupees to ensure these games are over in 3 days!!!!!

I can offer you inside information - payable in wine!!!!!

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st.helier

Aye. Then again, you did beat the Indian side we sent by in 02-03 on those weather hit pitches. Terrible tour, that was. Rain all over the place, lots of cloud and moisture...

So just how did the 03 vintage turn out around NZ? [Not seen much of that vintage in shops anywhere, in fact. Seen a handful of 02s, lots of 04s and 05s and now starting to see the 06s.]

I thought the money went to the opposition to help keep the games going for that long!

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Salil

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