Lunch Notes

Lunch notes:

2003 Montes Alpha Chardonnay - little oak and lots of acidity - which had me praising it and others declaring it too lean. Chacun a son gout.

1978 Badia a Coltibuono Chianti Classico Reserva - a very interesting pale colour with orange edges. I thought the nose indicated Nebbiolo (I went for Italy right off), as it had a bit of cherry there and some earth. This wine rides on its acidity and presents well, but fades reasonably quickly - not unexpected at that age. Very nice.

1996 Alain Graillot Crozes Hermitage - fairly dark with a nose that was quite nice except for the green element, though that seemed to fade. Fair bit of acidity and some more time might improve it, but I wasn't at all happy with the wine and am not sure if it has anywhere to go.

2002 Geil Bechtheimer Geyersberg Riesling Spatlese - clean, crisp wine, but with no detectable Riesling characteristics - we were all over the globe trying to nail this one down. It almost had sauvignon blanc elements in the nose, had a sizeable presence in the mouth, and good acidity, but was simply not like a German wine is expected to taste!

1995 Dom. Les Clos des Cazeaux Cuvee de La Tour Surrazine Gigondas - a light, limpid colour, good fruit in the nose, and some pepper and mushroom in the mouth at the end, following a sweet middle. An elegant Gigondas.

1999 Ch. D'Aiguilhe Cotes de Castillon - dark with a sweet vanilla nose, fairly big in the mouth and harmonious, this claret drinks very well now.

2001 Isenhower Batchelor's Button Cabernet - pink edges (!), and a real cocoa and fruit nose, good length ending with oak and soft tannin. Tasty wine.

2002 Montes Alpha Cabernet - these guys always seem to be a class act. Purple wine with some mint in the nose, good fruit and lots of tannin that came in at the last half on palate. Buy some and leave it alone for 5 years.

1997 Frescobaldi Montesodi - this Tuscan Cabernet was fairly dark and had a somewhat stinky dusty nose that did improve with some air time. Sweet finish with medium length. Nice wine.

1990 Quail's Gate Optima - this sweet low acid grape is not my cup of tea. I have had other (1998) dessert wines from Quail's Gate made from this as well as those from other producers and was not impressed. This thing was so damned old, however, that we just didn't know quite what to make of it. The colour was rather dark, and the nose featured rotting Mandarin oranges with a cinnamon overlay, and a sharpness we had difficulty describing. It was not as sweet as you'd have thought, based on the nose, and was a bit hollow in the middle and short.

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Bill Spohn
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Bill, it sounds like you drink better (mostly) than Mark Lipton! Well, at lunch anyway... :^)

Tom S

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Tom S

I'm sure Mark gets his share of unpronounceable ones too....;-)

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Bill Spohn

And at dinner, and for midnight snacks... Having seen his cellar firsthand, I have no illusions as to *ever* drinking as well as Bill -- but we all need to have goals for ourselves, no? ;-)

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

I guess that depends on who's doing the pronouncing, Bill. Several of my wine drinikng companions can't find their way around Te Kairanga, let alone Ch. D'Aiguilhe. And what's so hard about pronouncing Quail's Gate, anyway? :P

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

Cabernet?

Montesodi is Chianti Rufina DOCG and 100 percent Sangiovese.

-> "Wines" -> (Castello di Nipozzano) "Montesodi".

M.

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Michael Pronay

OK, Michael - I know I could Google it, but I'd rather hear it from someone that I know _knows_.

What, exactly, is "Chianti Rufina"? I assume that's a term not actually associated with the Chianti producer, Ruffino.

TIA.

Tom S

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Tom S
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Michael Pronay

Bill may have meeant to refer to Mormoreto, Frescobaldi's Cabernet based blend from the Nippozano estate (IIRC)

Chianti Rufina is simply another region of Tuscany entitled to use the word Chianti but outside of the 'Classico' zone. Arguably Rufina is the best quality zone potentially after Classico. Rufina is much the same as Chianti Colli Senesi, Colli Fiorentini, Colli Aretini, Colline Pisane, and Montalbano.

Whether these other areas should be allowed to use Chianti outside of the Classico zone is debatable. Montalcino for example is inside the Chianti Colli Senesi zone.

Peter

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Peter Muto

I'm glad someone is watching, Michael - I of course thought (and drank) Mormoreto while blithely typing Montesodi - thanks for catching it!

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Bill Spohn

Correct.

Chianti is a region. There are several sub-regions, including Rufina.

Chianti: Again, not a single grape but a region in Italy world-famous for its dry red wines that pair well with much Italian cuisine. Chianti is located in the heart of Tuscany, between Florence and Siena. The region is divided, with the Chianti Classico area being the center. Other Chianti sub-regions are Chianti Rufina, Chianti Colli Fiorentini, Chianti Colli Sensesi, and Chianti Colli Aretini. Sangiovese is the main grape in Chianti, but that pale purple juice is often blended with other grapes, including Trebbiano, for depth and color. It is a dry wine with moderate weight, featuring cherry, plum, spice and tart qualities. Those labeled Riserva have been aged longer.

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This is a disturbing tasting note, Bill. Granted, '96 wasn't a particularly strong year in the N. Rhone, but from a producer as reliable as Graillot, I'd have expected a more pleasing wine. As I have a few '96 Cote-Roties still tucked away in the cellar, you've set the fox among the psychic chickens, so to speak...

I agree that Montes Alpha is a very impressive outfit. Even their lowest price offerings have IME been well-made and interesting wines.

Mark Lipton

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