suggestions on finding ISO shaped glass in USA?

I don't expect the wine to taste any better but I need to get some wine glasses anyway so I started trying to buy some ISO shaped glasses.

Info if you're not familiar with it:

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It's just a shape that the ISO decided was good and it looks fine to me. But I have yet to find a source in the USA. All are in Europe and shipping glass is really expensive, etc.

Haven't found anything in any stores here or online.

Just in case some of you wine buffs know of a good source, please pass it along.

Regards, Rob

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rob
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Hello, rob! You wrote on Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:15:08 GMT:

r> Info if you're not familiar with it: r>

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r> It's just a shape that the ISO decided was good and it looks r> fine to me. But I have yet to find a source in the USA. All r> are in Europe and shipping glass is really expensive, etc.

Haven't the ISO people got more useful things to do? The reaction of many, including me, would be avoid officially approved glasses like the plague!

r> Haven't found anything in any stores here or online.

r> Just in case some of you wine buffs know of a good source, r> please pass it along.

r> Regards, Rob

James Silverton Potomac, Maryland

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James Silverton

Try searching on Froogle for "INAO glass" instead of ISO and I think you'll find what you're looking for.

You should be aware that they are very small for drinking, and the design was chosen ONLY for standardization of judging small samples, I've never heard anyone say they are best glass for drinking. If anything they accentuate any flaws. In my personal opinion you'd be far better off with a midsized (12-14 oz) wine stem. You might search most recent FAQ post for ideas re makers. But if you're set on ISO/INAO glasses many stores carry them.

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DaleW

Hello, DaleW! You wrote on 14 Oct 2006 11:22:33 -0700:

D> Try searching on Froogle for "INAO glass" instead of ISO and D> I think you'll find what you're looking for.

D> You should be aware that they are very small for drinking, D> and the design was chosen ONLY for standardization of D> judging small samples, I've never heard anyone say they are D> best glass for drinking. If anything they accentuate any D> flaws. In my personal opinion you'd be far better off with a D> midsized (12-14 oz) wine stem. You might search most recent D> FAQ post for ideas re makers. But if you're set on ISO/INAO D> glasses many stores carry them.

Thanks Dale! At least there is some point in ISO glasses if they are for *judging* wine but I still suspect any decisions by beer-drinking Brussels (?) bureaucrats!

James Silverton Potomac, Maryland

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James Silverton

Rob,

I would not bother with ISO glasses, they are way too small to taste most wines, they might be good for botrytis wine tastings. They are intended to serve as a common standard for analytical tastings. For enjoyment, avoid them. Also, most often they are way too thick.

Get a set of Spiegelau Authentis number 2 or 3 instead.

cheers

Mike

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Mike Tommasi

At a WSET (Wine & Spirit Educational Trust) - the uk wine trade training body (Which I was doing for fun, not as a member of the trade) - we tasted a range of wines in a range of glasses, the difference between glasses of the same wine was astonishing. Quite different characterisics were clear on both nose and palate. The iso glass design does what it is intended to do : it standardises the process and makes comparisons less subjective.

If you have never done it do try! - instead of tasting 6 wines, choose 1 very good wine whose characteristics you know well and taste it in 6 glasses of different size and shape!

The iso glasses are not intended as "drinking glasses" but as "tasting glasses" - for drinking choose the glass shape that best suits the wine!

pk

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p.k.

Mike, which are the 2 & 3? I never see them marketed by number in US.

I have a variety of glasses. I like Spiegelau Bordeaux/Burgundy stems for serious reds (besides Bordeaux I use the Bdx stems for those grapes from CA as well as Syrah, the Burgs I use for Pinot Noir and other more aromatically driven grapes such as Nebbiolo). But for everyday use I found it a bit of overkill for a simple Cotes du Rhone or Zinfandel, and even for say a satellite Bordeaux I hated the handwashing (or worrying that dog would knock over glass from coffee table, or someone would bump table with drying glasses)

I found I preferred the Riedel (Vinum?) Zinfandel/Chianti glass. But still hated the handwashing, and eventually all the Chianti stems got broken. My happy medium was when I got some Schott Zwiesel Tritan (titanium instead of lead) Chardonnay glasses. 16 oz bowl (slightly bigger than the Zin/Chianti) is big enough for most reds, but does well with most whites. And because it's titanium dishwasher-able. Not totally unbreakable but never in dishwasher so far (and no etching).

I also had gotten the SZ Tritan Diva Bordeaux stems (both gifts), but they are ridiculously sized- over a foot tall with maybe a 30+ ounce bowl. This birthday Betsy got me 4 Bdx stems from a different SZ titanium line, the Forte. More reasonable, bowl is big but not ridiculous (22 oz?) , maybe 9 inches tall. The stem itself is a little short so not as attractive as some, and maybe the rim is just a tad thicker than my regular Spiegelaus and Riedels. But nice overall, and dishwasherable! So I now use these when we have a big red. For real wine parties or when opening a really serious wine I still prefer the lead stems - and spending hours washing by hand later in the case of parties. :)

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DaleW

ISO. And I've never found it in any store or at any US location.

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DaleW

They're exactly the same. Don't know whether INAO took over ISO specs or the other way round.

M.

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Michael Pronay

They're also fit for sherry and most spirits.

M.

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Michael Pronay

I presume that is a comment aimed at the 21.5cl glasses. But you can also get them in 15, 31 and 41cl sizes. As the larger sizes are not commonly used in judging it takes away some of the point, but it does mean you can get a reasonably shaped shaped glass from a number of suppliers should you have breakages.

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Steve Slatcher

It would be the other way round. ISO very rarely (if ever?) writes standards - it prefers to adopt existing ones.

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Steve Slatcher

Oh, and yes they are often thick, but if you pay more money you can get nicer ones. Schott Zwiesel make (made) them for example.

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Steve Slatcher

Thanks for precising.

M.

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Michael Pronay

Looks like they no longer use that coding, anyhow the part number is 440

01 03 and it is called SMALL WHITE WINE, it is in fact quite adequate for just about any wine, I use it for reds and whites. 200mm high, 81mm diameter, 360ml capacity. Anything bigger just makes drinking more difficult.

I also recommend the Authentis Champagne (440 01 29), these are fine for Champagne and botrytis, this is not a flute (useful only for the most insipid bubblies) but a tulip shape.

With those two sets I don't ever feel the need for any other glass.

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Mike Tommasi

Sorry Steve but ISO 3591 defines only one size. Manufacturers have developed other sizes of the same shape, but those are not ISO.

cheers

Mike

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Mike Tommasi

Mmmm. Then there is a lot of misinformation put about by the suppliers of glassware. Particulalry galling as I mistakenly ordered

15cl "ISO" glasses online once.
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Steve Slatcher

Thanks to all -- didn't know INAO was the same.

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rob

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