Sulfite free wine (esp UK)

Needs to be kept at around 10°C from the winemaker's cellar to your home (including trucks, ships, stores, depots).

If so, wines can be superbly aromatic when young. Will seldom keep long. Some will not make it to your home and will either referment on the bottle (they may pop the cork and can smell buttery or cheesy or just plain oxydised)

Be aware that no wine is sulfite free, as sulfite is produced naturally in fermentation. So sulfite fee wine usually means "no added sulfites".

Labelling for wines requires that they be marked "contains sulfites" without regard for the amount, as the legal threshold for this marking is very low. So you may have wine so marked that contain very little sulfite, and some that contain enormous migraine-inducing amounts. It is therefore a meaningless label.

I suggest you try looking for Dard & Ribo wines from the Northern Rhone, they make snas-soufre wines and they tend to be made with great care so of all sulfite fee wines theirs may be the lowest risk. Very transparent fruit in the reds.

Bill, As Mike said, special precautions have to be taken with non-sulfured wines (SO2 is used as an anti-bacterial, so wines without it are particularly susceptible to bacterial spoilage). The producers I know of who produce non-sulfured wine are the "Gang of Four" in Beaujolais (Lapierre, Thevenet, Foilard, Breton) and Thierry Allemand in Cornas. Look for "sans soufre" (without sulfur) on the label... and be vewy, vewy caweful ;-)

Mark Lipton

Mike Tommasi wrote

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Exactly what I think, too. This no-sulphytes trend, also, is probably the result of that stupid labeling policy. Will we ever see the *amount* of sulphytes on the labels? I'm not optimistic, ATM.

Having said that, there were also some fabulous wines at Vins de Vignerons...

Mike Tommasi wrote

Fabulous, yes, and often on the same table with the so2-free spoiled wines. A side note - everybody knows the effect of asparagus on urine's smell so, well... I experimented it with wine for the first time, thanks to a wonderful vendange tardive from Binner: I couldn't believe that distinctive riesling and cytrus smell in my piss! Still laughing ;)

No such thing. Sulfites are produced naturally when wine is fermented. You get more sulfites in a glass of orange luice than in wine. There are no sulfites ADDED wines. There are no sulfite-free wines. Sulfite allergies can be really bad. Check with your Doctor.

Fred.

Hello, Fred! You wrote on Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:22:37 GMT:

F> No such thing. Sulfites are produced naturally when wine is F> fermented. You get more sulfites in a glass of orange luice F> than in wine. There are no sulfites ADDED wines. There are F> no sulfite-free wines. Sulfite allergies can be really bad. F> Check with your Doctor.

Fred you should try a search on Google for

Sulfite wine

and perhaps sort out this bunch of, at best, partial truths.

James Silverton Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

Except most of them.

"James Silverton" wrote in news: _fidnYcCLdr2o8vYnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

I did.

Fred.

So where does it say "There are no sulfites ADDED wines"? It does say "serious winemakers and enology professors concur that to make a consistently stable wine, some sulfites must be added"

I don't see orange juice mentioned either, but I can well believe what you say. Suphites are widely used throughout the food industry; that is one of the reasons why I find it odd that wine is singled out (in the UK at least) for the requirement to have a warning label. If you really are sulphite intolerant you are going to have problems with many foods - wine will be the least of your problems.

Yes there are, very ow levels, almost nil.

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Almost all wines have sulfites added. This is plain wrong.

See above.

Only when the dose exceeds certain thresholds. Most wines that are meade with some restraint in SO2 levels will not give you trouble. And I am not sure that reactions to excessive amounts can be described as allergies, they affect evrybody.

Steve Slatcher wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Try "no sulfites ADDED" wines. Right after the second heading it says that wines free of added sulfites do exist. I should have said "there are wines without added sulfites" to be more clear. I did not mean "wines with added sulfites do not exist". Someone else (Mike) also seems to have misunderstood what I said.

Fruits are mentioned. Someone else in another thread used OJ as an example. While the site does not mention OJ specifically, OJ does contain sulfites. See

Fred.

Mike Tommasi wrote in news:4rohiuFscnjnU2 @mid.individual.net:

Almost nil, but not nil. The post was about sulfite free wines. Almost zero is not zero.

In another post I explained the misunderstanding. I should have said "there are wines without added sulfites". I did not mean "wines with added sulfites do not exist".

I stand by what I said. All wines have more than zero sulfites. The level of sulfites may be very small, but it is not zero.

While I may agree with you, I am not a Doctor. I am not someone that can say "this will not cause you problems" with any authority. Leave that to the people with medical degrees.

Fred.