TN: '70 -'90 Bordeaux at Triomphe

Apr 06, 2006 6 Replies

A group of winegeeks gathered at Triomphe last night to welcome our old friend David Wainwright who was on a short visit to NY. David is now in London consulting for Zachys auctions (he used to work for Christies) while studying for his MW. Thanks to Paul Jaouen for doing a fine job organizing, Triomphe for doing their usual splendid job,and David for giving us an excuse for trying some "Freaking Good 1990 & Older Bordeaux." I wasn't 100%, so my notes are even crappier than normal. And my grading is tightened up a bit to allow for a lot of good wines, only the Montrose, corked P-Lalande, and BA wouldn't be welcome on my table:


1998 Bonneau de Martray Corton-Charlemagne At first a wet wool nose that reminds me a bit of Chenin Blanc. Tight and woody at first. After a while opens a bit, showing that slightly oxidative hazelnutty notes that I associate with this wine. Maybe not a great year, but a nice wine. B+/B


1995 Trimbach "Cuvee Frederic Emile" Riesling Mineral and petrol, surprisingly approachable. Seemingly lighter than vintages like '97 or '98, but I like this a lot. B+



Bordeaux Flight One



1970 La Fleur Petrus (Pomerol) Maybe the pleasant surprise of the night. A pruney nose at first, but that blows off as it opens up. Quite lively with sweet red plum fruit. B+


1975 Giscours (Margaux) Very light at first, but picks up some steam in glass. Cedar and flowers. B


1983 Rausan Segla (Margaux) Very mature nose, some perfume and cigarbox. Nice rounded red fruit. B/B+

Flight Two



1970 Montrose (St. Estephe) Stinky nose, big and brawny. I think others like more than I do, there's a mint note and harsh acidity I don't care for. I'm pretty brett-tolerant, but the stink on this doesn't seem to be that Montrose barnyard. Someone says they don't think it's a representative bottle. C+


1970 Mouton Rothschild (Pauillac) Others dismiss this, while I think it's not awful, though not a great bottle for a First. Also some stink, but I think beneath the funk there's a pretty good wine lurking. Some lead pencil and cedar. B/B-


1978 Grand Puy Lacoste (Pauillac) Showing well, cigarbox and learther over redcurrant fruit. B+


1982 l'Arrosee (St. Emilion) Wine of the flight for me. Sweet red fruit, tobacco and cedar on the nose. Medium-bodied, silky texture. Very good finish. I always seem to like Arrosee, but never buy, should reconsider. A-/B+



A little break from the reds as the scallops in porcini foie gras butter arrived. John had broght the 1995 Zind-Humbrecht "Clos Windsbuhl" Gewürztraminer to go with this. Brilliant match, and very good wine. I always like ZH's Gewurz & TPG more than the Rieslings. Big, aromatic, tasty. A-



Flight Three



1983 Gruaud Larose (St Julien) I loved this when we did a Gruaud vertical last year, and this is also showing very well. Sweet dark fruit overlaid with floral and earth. Medium-bodied yet with some real backbone. A-/B+


1983 Pichon Lalande (Pauillac) I think group agreed this was slightly corked, but you could still sense some power under the cardboard. NR


1982 l'Evangile (Pomerol) Elegant rather than powerful, warm red plum and currant fruti with tobacco and cedar. I really enjoy this, A-/A


1990 Leoville Barton (St Julien) Tight, a bit hard, though the fruit is trying to push through. Much more closed than a bottle at a 1990 horizontal last year. Tonight this is a B, though couple more hours of air might have upped a bit.


Flight Four



1989 L'Evangile (Pomerol) Showing pretty well, balanced with blackcurrant and black plum fruit, a nice medium-bodied Pomerol with good finish. B+


1985 Cheval Blanc (St. Emilion) My WOTN. Elegant yet with a sense of vibrant strength, there are layers of violets, cigarbox and leather over the classy fruit. Finish goes on and on. A


1985 L'Eglise Clinet (Pomerol) Pretty funky, but it blows off to show a nice if very mature modest Pomerol. B

Flight Five



1989 Pichon Baron (Pauillac) Light pruney edge, pretty mature. B


1986 Lynch Bages (Pauillac) Seems tighter and less evolved than bottle at 1986 horizontal, with notes of sweat and earth. B


1989 Lynch Bages (Pauillac) Sweet fruit, brawny, young but offering lots fo pleasure. A-/B+


1990 Troplong Mondot (St. Emilion) Lifted nose at first, aromas of coffee and licorice. Very exotic, no points for typicity, but fun wine. B+



I wasn't feeling well, and had my main course just wrapped up. The waitress also wrapped my cheese course (great service, by the way). I tried the dessert wines, but my heart wasn't really in it:


1986 Coutet Vibrant, with clover honey over apricots and ripe peach. Delicious, lovely. A-/B+


1976 Sichel Winzer-Berrin Beerenauslese (Rheinpfalz) (name might not be totally right)



Attractive nose of bitter orange, but my note says the palate was "icky". Maybe more a function of my stomach than the wine, but I say C/C+.



Nice night. I wish I had more of an opportunity to enjoy Triomphe's fine food. Thanks everyone!


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.



That's a farkin shame, Dale. IIRC, in an early tasting of many wines from '83, this wine was a candidate for WOTV.

Hey!! I actually own all three of these. That's such a rare experience for me when reading your, Bill's, John's and Jim's Bdx notes that I just had to strut a bit ;-)

Hope you get well soon, Mark

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Agreed on the Zind-Humbrecht, wish had the means to get some more ...

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

I've had better bottles of the '86 Lynch, I think this one was slightly off. Good bottles of either Lynch probably need time. I'm not sure that the '89 P-B needs much in the way of time, based on this bottle. cheers!

I do not grade using your system, but if I did I likely would rate the

70 Mouton about as you do. It is no 82, to say nothing of 45, but still it is quite good. I have several bottles that have been stored correctly since release. This wine was slower to mature than many other 70s. With correct storage, I expect it to last many more years. I really have not noticed stink, but I find the wine just a bit heavy and lacking a bit of complexity compared with the best Mouton. Of course at 35+ years, storage is all important. In tasting of wine of this age, you never know if tasting impressions are due to differences in individual's taste or due to bottle variation.

This was one of the wines served at my son's wedding dinner just two years ago, courtesy of his father-in-law (described by Michael Broadbent as "...modest owner of a fine cellar"). Unfortunately, the occasion was so overwhelming that one could not do a thoughtful assessment of the wine. Nevertheless, I recall it drank very well.

--brian

Mark, Couple of members of this group who had more experience with the '89 Baron (my only previous try I can recall was corked) felt this was an off bottle, that it should be young. So no hurry.

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