TN: 8 US wines, 7 French wines, 1 Austrian wine, 1 US mead

Social overload week continues. Thursday we had a group of neighbors and fr iends for dinner. Hors d'oeuvres were marinated olives and canapes of crack ers or cucumber slices with salmon or white bean spread (with or without ol ives). Greeting wine was the NV Piper-Heidsieck Champagne Brut. Lighter fra med, good acids, green apple and bread dough. Not very long. B
Dinner was bouillabaisse plus Brussels sprouts, caprese salad, and a green salad. 2013 Mas de Gourgonnier rose (Les Baux de Provence) Strawberries and herbs, medium acidity, good finish, nice with the stew. B
2010 de Villlaine Aligote (Bouzeron) Lemony, sharp, lean but tasty. B
2013 Pepiere Muscadet Saline and sapid, crisp and minerally. B++
1996 Joguet "Les Varennes du Grand Clos" Chinon Black cherries, tobacco, earth, herbs, more tobacco. Fine showing B+/A-
1982 Ch. Roguet (Pomerol) A grand old lady in her last days, still some black plum and cassis fruit, lusher texture. There's some incipient ashtray, needs to be drunk up, but g iving pleasure. B/B+
2013 Clos du Roillete (Coudert) Fleurie I think this is going to be a classic Fleurie. Red and black raspberries, m oderate tannins, bright acids, cocoa, pepper, herbs. Drinking well, but I t hink will improve in cellar. B++
Fun night. Friday I was in charge of dinner- grilled herbed pork tenderloin , squash, asparagus, and bouillabaisse-flavored Israeli couscous. Wine was the 2007 Knoll Ried Schütt Riesling Smaragd- Lovely dry broad shouldered Riesling, with citrus, mineral, and smoke notes. Full flavored, balanced, l ong. A-
After dinner I prepared for the arrival of my local non-serious wine group. I had some local charcuterie (beef prosciutto, saucisson sec, chorizo), ch eeses, grape leaves, and the like. Theme was California Red Wines from Bord eaux Varieties. Folks enjoyed the Knoll and Fleurie as we gathered. Then we headed to patio (gorgeous cool evening) for the blind wines
Wine #1 - Decanted in advance. I knew what it was as I supplied for a late invitee. Guesses were much younger. Plenty of dark fruit, midweight, resolv ed tannins, cocoa. Easygoing. Not complex, but tasty. 1997 Beringer Knights Valley Cabernet Sauvignon B
Wine #2= jammy, fruity, sweet. I guess Napa CS. Nope. 2012 Hahn Meritage (Central Coast) 35% Merlot, 34% Malbec, 27%Cabernet Sauvignon, 4 % Petit Verdot. B-/C+ Wine #3- a little better balanced and more structured, but somewhat clipped on finish. 2012 Gordon Estate Cabernet Sauvignon (Columbia Valley) B- (Roger said "well it was in California section" )
Wine #4 - lots of eucalyptus makes it interesting, lots of oak detracts. Bi g, but not hot or overextracted. Less oak and I think I'd have liked this a lot. 2012 Frias Cabernet Sauvignon (St Helena, Napa) B-
Wine #5- Good showing. Red fruits, resolved tannins, balanced acids, cedar, leather. Guesses were 10-12 years old, probably group favorite. 1982 Burge ss Vintage Selection Cabernet Sauvignon B+/A-
Wine #6 Just a whisper of oak, herby, medium bodied, surprised to see Santa Ynez 2012 Beckman Cabernet Sauvignon (Santa Ynez) B
Wine #7 Dark fruit, lots of green tobacco and herb, so I say it has a lot o f Cab Franc. Once Marc confirms I can guess the wine, as we split a case wh en they were blownout 5-6 years ago. 2006 Havens Bourriquot B+
Wine #8 - acidic, but with interesting cassis fruit and lots of leather and barnyard. I guessed 70s, but would have never gotten region. Fun,. 1979 Na varro Cabernet Sauvignon B/B+
We also tried the Helderberg Meadworks Heritage. I gotta say I had trouble getting past the nose. I finally realized- stadium urinal- pee and urinal c akes. Actually on palate it was much friendlier, but I'm not switching from wine to mead any time soon.
Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C drinkable. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a p arty where it was only choice.Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivi ty, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.
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DaleW
DaleW wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Joguet was one of the first Domaines from the Loire that I learnt to appreciate. My last bottle, of this same vineyard and a lesser vintage (could be 1999) was stunning.
Last week the wines shown up in 1jour1vin and I got a stash of different vineyards, for the sake of memory.
Those damned french, with their double consonants always in the wrong place (I think it is Roilette).
Now seriously, this is a winery that is so under the radar in the french guides (RVF plus BD) but has a strong following in UK and USA. I have had a Cuv?e Tardive and loved it. But difficult to find.
Last week here it was Georges Descombes Morgon 2009 which was astonishingly good (A+) and Foillard Morgon Cote du Py 2010 that was very good specially considering the vintage (B+/A) with a plus for its buvability (easy to drink) and very nice red fruit with vivid acidity.
s.
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santiago
Lucky you!
Indeed, sorry about that
That Descombes is lovely. Ever had the Foillard 3.14? Great stuff
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DaleW
DaleW wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
I will tell you when I drink them ;) since I have no experience with the Joguet under the new regime (post 2005).
I tend to drink quite some Chinon and have a preference for Baudry over Alliet which I tend to find a bit "modern" in the oak use. Will see with these Joguets. BTW, I have quite some Baudry's 2009 but I just could not resist and purchased another bottle of Croix Boiss?e 2009 last friday. Will go this week and I may end up buying yet another case.
No need to say sorry. Hapenns to me a few times everyday. Frappato / Frapatto is another one I never get right.
Never had 3.14. I am now trying to try Daniel Bouland. BTW, the new cool guy in Beaujolais seems to be Desjourneys. Ever had one?
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santiago
what do you think of his wines. My favourite shop has a couple of his wines, a Morgon and a Côtes de Brouilly but at $33 I have been a bit reluctant to try them. Graham
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graham
graham wrote in news:LOfWv.144953$ snipped-for-privacy@fx25.iad:
Have not been able to try them, not available in Spain. Hopefully they will show up in a french website of those that I patronize, but not till now.
I read that his wines are amongst the most affordable in -good quality- Beaujolais Cru, so $33 seem a bit high to me.
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santiago
You and me, both, Santiago. I have more of Baudry's on 2009s than any other producers. All in all, I tend to prefer the Grezeaux to the Croix Boissée, but that's largely about pricing ;-)
I've heard very good things about Bouland, but haven't yet had one. G. Descombes is very good, however, as is Coudert/Roilette.
Mark Lipton
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Mark Lipton
Mark Lipton wrote in news:m0erev$gkj$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:
That's interesting because, actually, what Chinon is famous for, which is a soil of chalk (tuffeau) is more like Croix Boiss?e than like Les Grezeaux, which is a soil with small stones. I like both but I find Les Grezeaux a bit more difficult (specially with tannins). BTW, In 2009 I got Croix Boiss?e and Clos Guillot in bottles and Grezeaux in magnums ;)
BTW, in my last visit to the Domaine (last year), Matthieu told me that 2005 is a vintage of a lifetime for them and when I got home I was reassured by watching my two cases ;)
Today I got some bottles from idealwine in France. They are making a vente ? prix fixe of wines from Beaujolais. Got Daniel Bouland Morgon Corcelette and Morgon Vielles Vignes (2012 and 2013), Foillard Corcelette and Cote du Py 2012, Chignard Cuv?e Sp?ciale 2012 and Descombes Morgon Vielles Vignes 2012. Sadly, no Coudert this time, but I still have a couple of bottles from a previous sale.
12 bottles, 164 euro, plus 24 shipping. That's around 18 euro per bottle and, frankly, wines drink so well without the need to keep them for very long. One of the wine regions where I still find very good value. However, I have also had some dissapointments, as was the case with Coquelet. My only bottle of Thillardon was good but not outstanding.
I was wondering about Chateau des Jacques, but all the sales were for lots of 6 bottles so I finally did not purchase.
s.
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santiago

So as fate would have it I spotted this at the supermarket (left over from the Foire aux Vins I think) and took home 3 bottles to try, before reading your note! May I ask what this is going for elsewhere? They've priced it at ?10.70 which seems quite good to me.
We are not drinking on Tuesdays, so I haven't tried it yet.
A good deal? I may go back and get more.
-E
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Emery Davis

I like the straight Domaine. The 2009 is drinking beautifully, which is why I don't have much of it!
Cheers,
-E
P.S. Hey Santiago do you have your dates for November yet? As usual planning is getting more complicated...
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Emery Davis
Emery Davis wrote in news:c90jcgFdnkhU2 @mid.individual.net:
Wasn't it oxidized the last one you opened?
Yes, 5th or 6th will fit me. I sent you an email one minute ago.
s.
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santiago
Emery Davis wrote in news:c90j6nFdnkhU1 @mid.individual.net:
I purchased Roilette Fleurie last year at idealwine and it was 9,50 euro / bottle, and Cuv?e Tardive at 11,50 euro / bottle.
If you are drinking on Wednesdays, you are just 47 minutes away to crack one bottle and then decide whether you go to the supermarket tomorrow at 9am for more ;)
s
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santiago
GOOD DEAL???? I'm paying ~?18 and ~?20 for the Cuvée Tardive! :-( That's my fault for living in W.Canada, I suppose. Graham
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graham

It was, I'd forgotten. The rest were gorgeous though. Settling my calendar for your visit, will reply by email in a couple of days.
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Emery Davis

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Yes me too on your recommendation. That was '12 though.
Sadly Wednesday morning counts with Tuesday evening for us. ;)
-E
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Emery Davis

Ouch. Of course there are other advantages in living where you do, perhaps! I'm a supporter of the UBC arboretum, for example.
Still that's a lot. :(
-E
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Emery Davis

I enjoyed the Coudert. A very good middle palate, I found more bell pepper in the front and so wouldn't rate it quite as highly as Dale, but I did like it enough to pick up a case!
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Emery Davis

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