TN, 96-97 Leoville Barton, chablis, vouvray

New neighbours suggested they host "getting to know you" dinner at their place friday night. I suggested they do the food, I'd provide the wines. Since they are a french couple, 2yrs out of france in the antipodes, figured they might enjoy a taste of home...

With tuna, red and green capscium, onion and mushroom, grilled satay style.

Jean-Marc Brocard, Domaine Sainte Claire, 1996 Chablis 1er Cru 'Beauregard' Colour darkish olive green with flashes of yellow and red in the lights, like a glass of xv olive oil. Soft lemon/citrus, new mown summer hay, mineral. Excellent balance, a dream wine. A+ If chablis comes better I'd love to be around.

Pan grilled white fish, potato rosti, pureed spinach with creme fraiche I was rather worried about a red with fish but..

Leoville Barton 1996 St Julien Bdx. Purchased en primeur and cellared by me from release. Double decanted back into the original bottle around 3 hours before service. Wonderful fragrance filled room with just removing cork. Dark purple almost black, tinge of brick at rim. Nose cream, black fruits, cedar spice, carries perfectly to palate. Velvet mouthfeel, creamy, absolutely seamless wine, balance, length. Superb A++. Well worth the near 10yr wait. My first dip into the stash of 96 bdx's.

Assortment of cheeses,and a chocolate cheese cake.

Chateau Gaudrelle (Monmousseau)1997 Vouvray, Val de Loire. Deep golden yellow, plenty of acid in good balance with the sweet honeycomb honey taste, otherwise quite bland. Very good with the cheese especially the blue brie, a bit cloying sweet with the cheese cake. B/B+. Our french hosts were surprised with the choice of a white wine with cheese.

Is the sweet white/cheeses an anglo-saxon thing?? (Mike T -help?)

(Very) Impressed with the 96 Barton from friday, I decided sunday, to delve into the 97. At home, with pan seared scotch fillet steak, green beans blanched and marinated in xv olive oil, salty cow milk feta cheese, garden fresh tomatos squeezed so the juice runs into the marinade and dollop of Newmans Own classic dressing, plenty of flat leaf pasley. Tossed.

Leoville Barton 1997 St Julien Bdx. Decanted about 1hr before service Similar marvellous fragrance on opening, deep red/purple. Red fruits, cedar, vanilla, sharpish tannins and hit of acidity. Angular, sharp, lacking the grace and balance of the 96, seemingly lacking the benefit of age, un-integrated. Primary red fruits. C-

Balance of bottle the next night. Still tannic and acidic. Primary red fruits, lacks charm and grace. Leave next opening another half dozen years and cross fingers. It may come round :-( C.

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greybeard
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Thanks for the notes. I only have one bottle of the '96 L-Barton- would you suggest another 5-10 if you only had one?

I thought the '97 was a decent effort for the vintage, but I don't really like the vintage. Only thing I have left is the Lafleur. I hope for your sake time does help, but I wouldn't bet on it. :(

thanks,

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DaleW

"DaleW" wrote in news:1145207582.368993.148120 @i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Dale (others?)

I take it that 97 was uniformly bad in Bordeaux, my experience has been with St Emilion.

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Joseph Coulter

My personal opinion- I wouldn'tcall it bad, more mediocre (I'd call '91 & '92 bad, though I liked a couple of '92s). Biggest problem was initial pricing - most things came out as high or higher as '95 & '96. There were some good wines, but few were built to age -low acidity was notable. I think of myself as preferring more classically built wines, but I have to say early on the best '97s I had were somewhat modern styled Right Bankers like Barde-Haut, Clos de l'Oratoire, Monbousquet. But those have kind of fallen apart. I thought the '97 L-Poyferre was a nice medium-bodied wine, but time to drink up. I'd only buy any '97s now at big discounts- and I'd buy one to try before getting multiples.

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DaleW

In general the 97 were, in general, mediocre. In my opinion most were ready to drink upon release. These are wines I would eat with but not dine with. Most are good values now.

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sibeer

I'm pleased to say I have several more of the 96, and am happy to leave for sometime yet. I'd say now to 4-5yrs without problem. I'll be making sure to save for geek friends, or high occasions. Also have several 97's :-(

Buying quality bdx or bgy in NZ is mostly a case of grabbing something you like, or the pundits have talked up, en primeur. This is geek territory. Plenty of cheap new world wine available,

7 days a week, from the supermarket for the regular punters. There are few opportunities to locally purchase wines after release and provenence becomes an issue. The are not a lot of opportunities to sell collected wines either. There are some auction houses but I've never been tempted to participate. Unless you, or the purchaser, have a liquor licence, private resale is illegal.

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