Re: Finally!!!

Dave, I wouldn't add the campden tablet - might stop your fermentation. Wait until your fermentation is complete and you're ready to rack then add one. Darlene

Well. fianlly did it.. got my first batch of wine going... Took > welches and modified a couple recipies I found here and on jacks site. > I have (if you remember) some grapes frozen, but wanted to have a > batch under my belt before tossing my hard-earned grapes away. that > way if something goes wrong, I am just out the juice.. not my grapes. > > Here's what I did: > > took 2 cans of welches pourable (the ones in the soda cans) > concentrate. put them in a one gallon glass jug (cleaned, sulfited, > etc) and added enough water to get the level up to the bottom of the > neck. took pH and SG.. (3.5 and 1.050).. added sugar (1.5 cups in > all) and got to 1.091. ended up dumping some of the wine into a > food-grade 5 gal bucket (primary) as there was not room for the sugar > to mix up. let the whole mess sit for about an hour, and sprinkled > the yeast accross the top (lavlin k1v-1116) set the top to the > bucket on the top and walked away.... An hour later, there was > already a smell coming from the bucket (when i lifted the top) that I > can only hope was the fermenting... it vaugely reminded me of when > my grandma used to bake bread, so I assume it is the yeast doing it's > thing...... checked on it when I got home from work tonight, and > it has the same smell, just a hair stronger.... > > I realized when I got to work that I forgot to put campden in the > juice. However, I don't think that will be a problem as all the > equipment was properly sulfited before use, and the juice was > paturized,etc from welches.... I will probably toss one in anyway > tommorow just to be safe... > > well... wish me luck!! > > > > > email: dallyn_spam at yahoo dot com > please respond in this NG so others > can share your wisdom as well!
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Dar V
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Looks like it will be good. I would NOT add campden after you have added the yeast. It is usually used before addition to knock down rogue yeasts. I would, instead, add campden at the racking you do when the wine is done fermenting - probably the second racking.

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Greg Cook

Congratulations, Dave!

DON'T! Firstly, it's unneeded. Welch's already has about 120 ppm of sulfite in it (according to information obtained with great difficulty from the company chemists). (I usually aerate such juices to reduce the sulfite before using them). Secondly, when you add sulfite to a fermenting must, the SO2 quickly becomes tied up in a bound form, which won't help in inhibiting microbial growth or oxidation (the reason you add it in the first place); and production of acetaldehyde will proceed, which can adversely affect wine flavour.

Good luck, Dave. You are well on your way to a permanent addiction. :)

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Negodki

:) never got around to it yet today... so now I won't ;)

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Dave Allyn

Okay... The bucket has stoped producing most of the bubbles.. But, it has only been in primary for 4 days... when should I move to secondary??

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Dave Allyn

Do you have a hydrometer? If so, I would test before doing anything. Darlene

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Dar V

The length of the primary fermentation is based on the amount of sugar you started with, the yeast, and the temperature of the fermentation. Some could be "done" in 5 days, but most take longer.

Get a hydrometer, and measure the specific gravity. It should be around 1.0 When I say around, I mean right at, or below. At 1.010 or so, I plan to rack my wine from primary to secondary fermentation containers. (Making a white wine from concord grapes.)

Once the primary is done, or close to it, you want to be careful about exposing your wine to air, so fill up carboys, leave a little room for the fermentation to finsih, and fit them with airlocks.

Cheers, Will

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Will Hutton

Yes, I do have some frozen grapes.. however, i didn't add them to this batch. I wanted a batch under my belot before risking my hard-earned first crop of home grown grapes...

I will probably be moving to secondary tommorow. I had read somewhere that I should go though a coffee filter when I do so, but I tend to think that would remove to much yeast...

I have a funnel to use for this purpose...

I assume the headspace is to prevent foaming into the airlock correct? How long is this a worry? I always understood that the less air in the secondary, the better. One text even said less than 1/2 inch (about one cm....) Is this a worry?

Thanks in advance...

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Dave Allyn

From what you said earlier (that it had slowed down to a crawl), I expected an SG of 1.000 or less. There is no reason (IMO) to transfer to a secondary until the activity slows to that stage. Of course, if the ferment sticks at a higher SG, that is a different matter --- but it is easier to restart a stuck ferment in a primary, as well. As long as there is an active fermentation, enough CO2 will be produced that the primary is still an adequate vessel.

Now, seeing how much that little bit of wine foamed up when you disturbed it, do you understand why you will still need to leave ample headroom in the secondary while it is still fermenting? :)

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Negodki

Yup.. :) I guess when I thought it had slowed to a crawl it was in comparason to earlier when it has about three inchesof foam on top of the must.. :)

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Dave Allyn

Okay.. moved to secondary today. SG was at 1.005... figured that was close enough... air lock is bubbling away!

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Dave Allyn

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