Thinning of vertical shoots and mulching

What a surprise. Where do you think I got some of what I'm talking about? Lon is a big Mychorrdial (sp?) fungus fan. I'm surprised he didn't mention the amount of that fungus that is produced by wood chips. I took his enthusiasm for the fungus and noticed how much was produced by wood chip mulch and put the 2 together.

The difference he discusses between straight chips and prunings makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for posting.

Winter rye sounds easy enough to do and makes sense as well.

Thanks aga> >

It makes sense to me b/c the leaf material included in the prunings is a nitrogen supplement

by that logic, isn't *everything alive* carbon based?

Yes. You hit the nail right on the head. Did you know that the biologically stable state of nitrogen is as a gas and the stable state of carbon is as a solid? Why is it that dry leaves are considered high in carbon and wet ( live) leaves considered high in nitrogen? Did you know if you fertilized your lawn with urea pellets and it didn't rain they would still evaporate? Is dry grass considered high in carbon or high in nitrogen? Does nitrogen dissolve in water? What constitutes

OK, now I'm joining everybody else ... I'm through with you. Intelligent discussion I can handle. Sarcasm and condescension I won't tolerate.

The point of my post was that everything alive *is* carbon based ...

Look. Mulch with what you want. I sincerely wish you tremendous success.

He will need all the "success" he can muster if he actually ferments his wine in Rubbermaid trash containers like he advised others to do.

For the benefit of others who have not followed his advice on other posts; DO NOT ferment in Rubbermaid trash containers. They are NOT FDA approved for foods and the WILL leach out toxins you do not want in your wine or body. Of course, doublesb may put a few bark much wood chips in these also to absorb all the toxins :-(

Here is a good place to buy. There may be a place closer to you. The shipping charges might be a bit much for you out in Washington but here is the link and you can get an idea of what you might want. The Brute Trash containers are NOT FDA approved so stay clear of them. It would be a good idea to call US plastics and ask them to ship you a printed catalog. It is a lot easier to find things that way for me. They also have a tech support staff that will answer your questions as to which containers are safe for fermenting wine.